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We'd love to hear from you! Have any ideas or guests you'd like to hear on future episodes? Contact Colin directly here (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/contact) or on Instagram @modgolfpodcast (https://www.instagram.com/modgolfpodcast/) to start the conversation.
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  <title>From Corporate Consultant to Golf Tech Disruptor - Drew Koehler, Co-Founder at Blue Tees Golf</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What happens when a broken Amazon rangefinder ruins your round and sparks a multi-million dollar business idea? In this episode of The ModGolf Podcast, host Colin Weston sits down with Blue Tees Golf co-founder Drew Koehler to unpack the entrepreneurial journey behind one of golf’s fastest-growing tech brands. From liquidating bank accounts for bootstrap capital to launching the new Rainmaker launch monitor and Scout AI, this is a must-listen for golfers and entrepreneurs who want to know how to disrupt the golf industry with better design and smarter technology.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Have you ever bought a product online and have it break in a day? Our guest bought a rangefinder on Amazon only to have the eyepiece pop off on the first hole! That moment of frustration on a San Francisco golf course didn’t just ruin a round for two friends - it sparked a movement. In this episode, host Colin Weston sits down with Drew Koehler, co-founder of Blue Tees Golf, to unpack how a group of young professionals with zero golf industry experience but a ton of business acumen decided to disrupt the golf tech space. From liquidating their bank accounts to buying a company just to get the perfect name, Drew shares the wild, unfiltered journey of building one of golf’s coolest and fastest-growing brands. If you’ve ever dreamed of turning a side-hustle into a full-blown business, or just want to know what’s next in golf tech, this is a masterclass you don’t want to miss.
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Key takeaways in this episode with Drew that you will discover:
Build Your Team Like a Stool, Not a Table
Drew shares why the founding team at Blue Tees was intentionally diverse - sales, finance, industrial design, and marketing. He reveals why going into business with people who have the exact same skillset is a recipe for disaster and how complementary strengths are the true engine of growth.
Design Matters from the Box to the Course
Learn how Blue Tees borrowed a page from Apple’s playbook to create a premium "unboxing" experience. Drew explains that the customer journey starts long before the product is turned on, and how tactile feedback, packaging, and high-quality materials are critical to building trust and brand loyalty.
The Future is a Connected Ecosystem
Drew lifts the curtain on the company’s "Scout AI" and the new Rainmaker launch monitor. He explains how Blue Tees is moving beyond standalone gadgets to create a seamless, connected ecosystem where your launch monitor data automatically updates your rangefinder’s club recommendations - keeping your phone in your bag and your focus on the game.
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then check out our extended bonus segment with Drew on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U) or the image below to watch.
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Three Quotable Moments from Drew:
On taking the leap: "I was like, 'This is ridiculous. You should go do this yourself. Put your money where your mouth is and actually stand behind the advice you're giving.' So that was my AHA moment. I loved my job. It was safe. But let's go take that leap of faith."
On product design philosophy: "When you open up an Apple product before you even touch the phone, the box is the first thing you touch. Everything is already priming you to have an incredible experience. That design component was a pillar for us."
On the origin of the name: "When we heard 'Blue Tees Golf,' it was a light bulb moment. We were like, 'Our brand and our products are going to give you the confidence to take that step back and go play from the blue tees.' It became our mantra."
Drew Koehler's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/drew-koehler
Links &amp;amp; Resources Mentioned:
Blues Tees Golf Instagram: @levelwear 
LinkedIn: Drew Koehler (https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewkoehler/)
Blue Tees Golf website: https://blueteesgolf.com/ 
The ModGolf YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@modgolfpodcast
Episode Chapters:
00:00 - Welcome to the show and The PGA Show converstation that led to this episode
01:30 - The Power of Invitation: Drew’s First Golf Memory
04:25 - From Political Science to Gartner: A Non-Traditional Path
06:50 - The Origin Story: A Broken Rangefinder and a Frustrating Round
09:30 - The "Blissfully Ignorant" Idea: Assembling the Dream Team
12:10 - From Concept to Creation: The Battle for a Name (and buying the company)
14:15 - Liquidating Bank Accounts and The 3 Pillars of Blue Tees
16:15 - The Apple Influence: Obsessing Over the Customer Experience
20:30 - Brand Culture: The Travis Mathew &amp;amp; Southern California Vibe
25:30 - Defining Features: How They Decide What to Build (And What to Leave Out)
28:45 - The Player Plus GPS Speaker: Innovation Born from Selfishness
30:05 - Introducing the Rainmaker Launch Monitor: A Screen Changes Everything
33:55 - The Connected Ecosystem: How Hardware and Software Work Together
35:50 - Frictionless Experience: Keeping the Phone in the Bag
39:55 - The Next Frontier: Scout AI and Democratizing the Caddy Experience
43:15 - Closing thoughts and where to find the extended conversation on The ModGolf YouTube channel
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
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We want to thank Golf Genius Software who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg (https://www.golfgenius.com)
Golf Genius powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at golfgenius.com (https://www.golfgenius.com). Special Guest: Drew Koehler, Co-Founder / Chief Revenue Officer at Blue Tees Golf.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Have you ever bought a product online and have it break in a day? Our guest bought a rangefinder on Amazon only to have the eyepiece pop off on the first hole! That moment of frustration on a San Francisco golf course didn’t just ruin a round for two friends - it sparked a movement. In this episode, host Colin Weston sits down with Drew Koehler, co-founder of Blue Tees Golf, to unpack how a group of young professionals with zero golf industry experience but a ton of business acumen decided to disrupt the golf tech space. From liquidating their bank accounts to buying a company just to get the perfect name, Drew shares the wild, unfiltered journey of building one of golf’s coolest and fastest-growing brands. If you’ve ever dreamed of turning a side-hustle into a full-blown business, or just want to know what’s next in golf tech, this is a masterclass you don’t want to miss.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/4TO7iIPk.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways in this episode with Drew that you will discover:</strong></p>

<p><strong>Build Your Team Like a Stool, Not a Table</strong><br>
Drew shares why the founding team at Blue Tees was intentionally diverse - sales, finance, industrial design, and marketing. He reveals why going into business with people who have the exact same skillset is a recipe for disaster and how complementary strengths are the true engine of growth.</p>

<p><strong>Design Matters from the Box to the Course</strong><br>
Learn how Blue Tees borrowed a page from Apple’s playbook to create a premium &quot;unboxing&quot; experience. Drew explains that the customer journey starts long before the product is turned on, and how tactile feedback, packaging, and high-quality materials are critical to building trust and brand loyalty.</p>

<p><strong>The Future is a Connected Ecosystem</strong><br>
Drew lifts the curtain on the company’s &quot;Scout AI&quot; and the new Rainmaker launch monitor. He explains how Blue Tees is moving beyond standalone gadgets to create a seamless, connected ecosystem where your launch monitor data automatically updates your rangefinder’s club recommendations - keeping your phone in your bag and your focus on the game.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then check out our extended bonus segment with Drew on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/usoRJP0l.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Three Quotable Moments from Drew:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On taking the leap:</strong> &quot;I was like, &#39;This is ridiculous. You should go do this yourself. Put your money where your mouth is and actually stand behind the advice you&#39;re giving.&#39; So that was my AHA moment. I loved my job. It was safe. But let&#39;s go take that leap of faith.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On product design philosophy:</strong> &quot;When you open up an Apple product before you even touch the phone, the box is the first thing you touch. Everything is already priming you to have an incredible experience. That design component was a pillar for us.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the origin of the name:</strong> &quot;When we heard &#39;Blue Tees Golf,&#39; it was a light bulb moment. We were like, &#39;Our brand and our products are going to give you the confidence to take that step back and go play from the blue tees.&#39; It became our mantra.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Drew Koehler&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/drew-koehler" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/drew-koehler</a></p>

<p><strong>Links &amp; Resources Mentioned:</strong><br>
Blues Tees Golf Instagram: @levelwear <br>
LinkedIn: <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewkoehler/" rel="nofollow">Drew Koehler</a></strong><br>
Blue Tees Golf website: <a href="https://blueteesgolf.com/" rel="nofollow">https://blueteesgolf.com/</a> <br>
The ModGolf YouTube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@modgolfpodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/@modgolfpodcast</a></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
00:00 - Welcome to the show and The PGA Show converstation that led to this episode<br>
01:30 - The Power of Invitation: Drew’s First Golf Memory<br>
04:25 - From Political Science to Gartner: A Non-Traditional Path<br>
06:50 - The Origin Story: A Broken Rangefinder and a Frustrating Round<br>
09:30 - The &quot;Blissfully Ignorant&quot; Idea: Assembling the Dream Team<br>
12:10 - From Concept to Creation: The Battle for a Name (and buying the company)<br>
14:15 - Liquidating Bank Accounts and The 3 Pillars of Blue Tees<br>
16:15 - The Apple Influence: Obsessing Over the Customer Experience<br>
20:30 - Brand Culture: The Travis Mathew &amp; Southern California Vibe<br>
25:30 - Defining Features: How They Decide What to Build (And What to Leave Out)<br>
28:45 - The Player Plus GPS Speaker: Innovation Born from Selfishness<br>
30:05 - Introducing the Rainmaker Launch Monitor: A Screen Changes Everything<br>
33:55 - The Connected Ecosystem: How Hardware and Software Work Together<br>
35:50 - Frictionless Experience: Keeping the Phone in the Bag<br>
39:55 - The Next Frontier: Scout AI and Democratizing the Caddy Experience<br>
43:15 - Closing thoughts and where to find the extended conversation on The ModGolf YouTube channel</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Drew Koehler, Co-Founder / Chief Revenue Officer at Blue Tees Golf.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Have you ever bought a product online and have it break in a day? Our guest bought a rangefinder on Amazon only to have the eyepiece pop off on the first hole! That moment of frustration on a San Francisco golf course didn’t just ruin a round for two friends - it sparked a movement. In this episode, host Colin Weston sits down with Drew Koehler, co-founder of Blue Tees Golf, to unpack how a group of young professionals with zero golf industry experience but a ton of business acumen decided to disrupt the golf tech space. From liquidating their bank accounts to buying a company just to get the perfect name, Drew shares the wild, unfiltered journey of building one of golf’s coolest and fastest-growing brands. If you’ve ever dreamed of turning a side-hustle into a full-blown business, or just want to know what’s next in golf tech, this is a masterclass you don’t want to miss.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/4TO7iIPk.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways in this episode with Drew that you will discover:</strong></p>

<p><strong>Build Your Team Like a Stool, Not a Table</strong><br>
Drew shares why the founding team at Blue Tees was intentionally diverse - sales, finance, industrial design, and marketing. He reveals why going into business with people who have the exact same skillset is a recipe for disaster and how complementary strengths are the true engine of growth.</p>

<p><strong>Design Matters from the Box to the Course</strong><br>
Learn how Blue Tees borrowed a page from Apple’s playbook to create a premium &quot;unboxing&quot; experience. Drew explains that the customer journey starts long before the product is turned on, and how tactile feedback, packaging, and high-quality materials are critical to building trust and brand loyalty.</p>

<p><strong>The Future is a Connected Ecosystem</strong><br>
Drew lifts the curtain on the company’s &quot;Scout AI&quot; and the new Rainmaker launch monitor. He explains how Blue Tees is moving beyond standalone gadgets to create a seamless, connected ecosystem where your launch monitor data automatically updates your rangefinder’s club recommendations - keeping your phone in your bag and your focus on the game.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then check out our extended bonus segment with Drew on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/egypq02F-0U" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/usoRJP0l.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Three Quotable Moments from Drew:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On taking the leap:</strong> &quot;I was like, &#39;This is ridiculous. You should go do this yourself. Put your money where your mouth is and actually stand behind the advice you&#39;re giving.&#39; So that was my AHA moment. I loved my job. It was safe. But let&#39;s go take that leap of faith.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On product design philosophy:</strong> &quot;When you open up an Apple product before you even touch the phone, the box is the first thing you touch. Everything is already priming you to have an incredible experience. That design component was a pillar for us.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the origin of the name:</strong> &quot;When we heard &#39;Blue Tees Golf,&#39; it was a light bulb moment. We were like, &#39;Our brand and our products are going to give you the confidence to take that step back and go play from the blue tees.&#39; It became our mantra.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Drew Koehler&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/drew-koehler" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/drew-koehler</a></p>

<p><strong>Links &amp; Resources Mentioned:</strong><br>
Blues Tees Golf Instagram: @levelwear <br>
LinkedIn: <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewkoehler/" rel="nofollow">Drew Koehler</a></strong><br>
Blue Tees Golf website: <a href="https://blueteesgolf.com/" rel="nofollow">https://blueteesgolf.com/</a> <br>
The ModGolf YouTube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@modgolfpodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/@modgolfpodcast</a></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
00:00 - Welcome to the show and The PGA Show converstation that led to this episode<br>
01:30 - The Power of Invitation: Drew’s First Golf Memory<br>
04:25 - From Political Science to Gartner: A Non-Traditional Path<br>
06:50 - The Origin Story: A Broken Rangefinder and a Frustrating Round<br>
09:30 - The &quot;Blissfully Ignorant&quot; Idea: Assembling the Dream Team<br>
12:10 - From Concept to Creation: The Battle for a Name (and buying the company)<br>
14:15 - Liquidating Bank Accounts and The 3 Pillars of Blue Tees<br>
16:15 - The Apple Influence: Obsessing Over the Customer Experience<br>
20:30 - Brand Culture: The Travis Mathew &amp; Southern California Vibe<br>
25:30 - Defining Features: How They Decide What to Build (And What to Leave Out)<br>
28:45 - The Player Plus GPS Speaker: Innovation Born from Selfishness<br>
30:05 - Introducing the Rainmaker Launch Monitor: A Screen Changes Everything<br>
33:55 - The Connected Ecosystem: How Hardware and Software Work Together<br>
35:50 - Frictionless Experience: Keeping the Phone in the Bag<br>
39:55 - The Next Frontier: Scout AI and Democratizing the Caddy Experience<br>
43:15 - Closing thoughts and where to find the extended conversation on The ModGolf YouTube channel</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Drew Koehler, Co-Founder / Chief Revenue Officer at Blue Tees Golf.</p>]]>
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  <title>Team Over Everything: The Art of Building an Enduring Brand - Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:15:00 -0700</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What does it take to build a golf apparel brand carried by 85 of the top 100 clubs in both the US and Canada? Hyman Ngo, Co-Founder of Levelwear, joins The ModGolf Podcast to share his journey from contract manufacturer to industry leader, revealing the "Who's With You" manifesto, the brand's commitment to sustainable performance apparel, and how authentic relationships with caddies and golf pros drive long-term success in the competitive golf fashion space.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>"We know who we are. We know who we're not. Rather than focusing on the athlete, as a sports apparel brand, we chose to celebrate all the people around them. It takes a village for anyone to succeed, whether you're a business, whether you're an athlete, whether you're a team. It takes everyone around you—the coaches, the parents, the trainers, the caddies. We need to credit all of those people. And that's the people we want to celebrate."... Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing
Welcome to Season 19 of The ModGolf Podcast! We are thrilled to kick off the new season with Hyman Ngo, Co-Founder and SVP of Product and Marketing at the premium athletic wear brand, Levelwear.
In this episode, Hyman takes us on a fascinating journey that began not as a startup, but as an acquisition. He shares the story of how his family transitioned from being a contract manufacturer to building the branded powerhouse that now outfits 85 of the top 100 golf clubs in the U.S and Canada.
We dive deep into Levelwear's unique brand ethos, exploring their powerful "Who's With You" manifesto and how it manifests in the real world through their innovative "Caddy Lounge" activation at PGA and LPGA events. Hyman also discusses the delicate balance of sustainability, the art of staying fresh in a crowded market, and how licensing deals with major leagues like the NHL and MLB help build brand legitimacy. Whether you're a golfer, an entrepreneur, or a fan of smart business strategy, this conversation is packed with insights on building a brand that lasts.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/vSA6JNOk.jpg
Key Takeaways You Will Discover:
The Power of Authentic Brand Building: Learn how Levelwear transitioned from a behind-the-scenes manufacturer to a coveted brand by focusing on relationships and leveraging early success in top-tier U.S. clubs (like Pebble Beach) to build credibility back home and beyond.
Celebrating the "Who's With You": Discover the philosophy behind Levelwear’s manifesto and how it led to the creation of the "Caddy Lounge." This marketing activation focuses on serving the unsung heroes of the game, proving that authentic engagement with a community can be more powerful than traditional consumer-facing advertising.
Balancing Sustainability with Performance: Hyman shares the brand's commitment to "buy less, but buy better," discussing the challenges of creating durable, high-performance apparel using sustainable materials while navigating the inherent contradiction of a consumption-based business model.
Three Quotable Moments from Hyman:
On the mentality of golf: "It's one of those sports where it's not about how much you want it. The more you want it, the harder you try, the worse you seem to do. It's such a good metaphor in life."
On the Levelwear brand ethos: "We're choosing to celebrate all the people around the athlete as it takes a village for anyone to succeed. And that's the people we want to celebrate."
On their design philosophy: "The one thing about brands is you don't want to get stale. We let the designers have a bit of fun. We'll let them do some things that maybe you would never see a golf brand do. And that's part of our appeal."
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then check out our extended bonus segment with Hyman on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k) or the image below to watch.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/UuPa6HLX.jpg (https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k) 
Hyman Ngo's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/hyman-ngo
Links &amp;amp; Resources Mentioned:
Levelwear Instagram: @levelwear 
LinkedIn: Hyman Ngo (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hyman-ngo-164b247/)
Levelwear: www.levelwear.com 
The ModGolf Podcast: www.mod.golf
Episode Chapters:
00:00: Welcome to Season 19 and Introducing Hyman Ngo
01:09: The Icebreaker: Hyman's first golf experience and the "metaphor of life."
04:09: Colin’s personal review of wearing Levelwear on the course.
05:29: From Manufacturer to Brand: The 2004 acquisition of Levelwear.
09:00: The Early Days: What the product line looked like 20 years ago and the initial struggle to grow.
12:58: Breaking into the U.S. Market: How Pebble Beach validated the brand for Canadian customers.
14:55: Standing Out in a Crowd: Levelwear's differentiators in a market with 400+ soft goods exhibitors.
22:31: The "Who's With You" Manifesto: The "why" behind the brand.
24:41: The Caddy Lounge: Honoring the unsung heroes of golf and building credibility from the ground up.
26:02: Sustainability Initiatives: Seaweed materials, durability, and the "buy less, buy better" philosophy.
35:04: The Power of Partnerships: How licensing with MLB, NHL, NBA, and the PGA Tour builds legitimacy.
36:05: Peeking Behind the Design Curtain: How the team finds inspiration in streetwear and action sports to stay fresh.
40:13: Where to find Levelwear &amp;amp; Final Thoughts.
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
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We want to thank our partner British Columbia Golf for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RUnDKdBN.png (https://britishcolumbiagolf.org)
British Columbia Golf strives to create a golf environment that is respectful of participant's personal goals and is free from all forms of maltreatment. British Columbia Golf supports women golfers and players of all ages and abilities, while continually working to increase participation in the sport with programs such as the Cloud Series.
British Columbia Golf is the Provincial Sport Organization for golf as recognized by the Government of British Columbia and ViaSport. Golf Canada recognizes the association as the governing body within the province. British Columbia Golf provides programs benefitting golfers and the golf industry in the province. Check out their website https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/ Special Guest: Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing.
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;We know who we are. We know who we&#39;re not. Rather than focusing on the athlete, as a sports apparel brand, we chose to celebrate all the people around them. It takes a village for anyone to succeed, whether you&#39;re a business, whether you&#39;re an athlete, whether you&#39;re a team. It takes everyone around you—the coaches, the parents, the trainers, the caddies. We need to credit all of those people. And that&#39;s the people we want to celebrate.&quot;... Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing</p>

<p>Welcome to Season 19 of The ModGolf Podcast! We are thrilled to kick off the new season with Hyman Ngo, Co-Founder and SVP of Product and Marketing at the premium athletic wear brand, Levelwear.</p>

<p>In this episode, Hyman takes us on a fascinating journey that began not as a startup, but as an acquisition. He shares the story of how his family transitioned from being a contract manufacturer to building the branded powerhouse that now outfits 85 of the top 100 golf clubs in the U.S and Canada.</p>

<p>We dive deep into Levelwear&#39;s unique brand ethos, exploring their powerful &quot;Who&#39;s With You&quot; manifesto and how it manifests in the real world through their innovative &quot;Caddy Lounge&quot; activation at PGA and LPGA events. Hyman also discusses the delicate balance of sustainability, the art of staying fresh in a crowded market, and how licensing deals with major leagues like the NHL and MLB help build brand legitimacy. Whether you&#39;re a golfer, an entrepreneur, or a fan of smart business strategy, this conversation is packed with insights on building a brand that lasts.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/vSA6JNOk.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways You Will Discover</strong>:<br>
<strong>The Power of Authentic Brand Building:</strong> Learn how Levelwear transitioned from a behind-the-scenes manufacturer to a coveted brand by focusing on relationships and leveraging early success in top-tier U.S. clubs (like Pebble Beach) to build credibility back home and beyond.</p>

<p><strong>Celebrating the &quot;Who&#39;s With You&quot;:</strong> Discover the philosophy behind Levelwear’s manifesto and how it led to the creation of the &quot;Caddy Lounge.&quot; This marketing activation focuses on serving the unsung heroes of the game, proving that authentic engagement with a community can be more powerful than traditional consumer-facing advertising.</p>

<p><strong>Balancing Sustainability with Performance:</strong> Hyman shares the brand&#39;s commitment to &quot;buy less, but buy better,&quot; discussing the challenges of creating durable, high-performance apparel using sustainable materials while navigating the inherent contradiction of a consumption-based business model.</p>

<p><strong>Three Quotable Moments from Hyman:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On the mentality of golf:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s one of those sports where it&#39;s not about how much you want it. The more you want it, the harder you try, the worse you seem to do. It&#39;s such a good metaphor in life.&quot;<br>
<strong>On the Levelwear brand ethos:</strong> &quot;We&#39;re choosing to celebrate all the people around the athlete as it takes a village for anyone to succeed. And that&#39;s the people we want to celebrate.&quot;<br>
<strong>On their design philosophy:</strong> &quot;The one thing about brands is you don&#39;t want to get stale. We let the designers have a bit of fun. We&#39;ll let them do some things that maybe you would never see a golf brand do. And that&#39;s part of our appeal.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then check out our extended bonus segment with Hyman on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/UuPa6HLX.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Hyman Ngo&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/hyman-ngo" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/hyman-ngo</a></p>

<p><strong>Links &amp; Resources Mentioned:</strong><br>
Levelwear Instagram: @levelwear <br>
LinkedIn: <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hyman-ngo-164b247/" rel="nofollow">Hyman Ngo</a></strong><br>
Levelwear: <a href="http://www.levelwear.com" rel="nofollow">www.levelwear.com</a> <br>
The ModGolf Podcast: <a href="http://www.mod.golf" rel="nofollow">www.mod.golf</a></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
<strong>00:00:</strong> Welcome to Season 19 and Introducing Hyman Ngo<br>
<strong>01:09:</strong> The Icebreaker: Hyman&#39;s first golf experience and the &quot;metaphor of life.&quot;<br>
<strong>04:09:</strong> Colin’s personal review of wearing Levelwear on the course.<br>
<strong>05:29:</strong> From Manufacturer to Brand: The 2004 acquisition of Levelwear.<br>
<strong>09:00:</strong> The Early Days: What the product line looked like 20 years ago and the initial struggle to grow.<br>
<strong>12:58:</strong> Breaking into the U.S. Market: How Pebble Beach validated the brand for Canadian customers.<br>
<strong>14:55:</strong> Standing Out in a Crowd: Levelwear&#39;s differentiators in a market with 400+ soft goods exhibitors.<br>
<strong>22:31:</strong> The &quot;Who&#39;s With You&quot; Manifesto: The &quot;why&quot; behind the brand.<br>
<strong>24:41:</strong> The Caddy Lounge: Honoring the unsung heroes of golf and building credibility from the ground up.<br>
<strong>26:02:</strong> Sustainability Initiatives: Seaweed materials, durability, and the &quot;buy less, buy better&quot; philosophy.<br>
<strong>35:04:</strong> The Power of Partnerships: How licensing with MLB, NHL, NBA, and the PGA Tour builds legitimacy.<br>
<strong>36:05:</strong> Peeking Behind the Design Curtain: How the team finds inspiration in streetwear and action sports to stay fresh.<br>
<strong>40:13:</strong> Where to find Levelwear &amp; Final Thoughts.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank our partner <strong>British Columbia Golf</strong> for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!<br>
<a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RUnDKdBN.png" alt=""></a></p>

<p>British Columbia Golf strives to create a golf environment that is respectful of participant&#39;s personal goals and is free from all forms of maltreatment. British Columbia Golf supports women golfers and players of all ages and abilities, while continually working to increase participation in the sport with programs such as the Cloud Series.</p>

<p>British Columbia Golf is the Provincial Sport Organization for golf as recognized by the Government of British Columbia and ViaSport. Golf Canada recognizes the association as the governing body within the province. British Columbia Golf provides programs benefitting golfers and the golf industry in the province. Check out their website <a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/" rel="nofollow">https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;We know who we are. We know who we&#39;re not. Rather than focusing on the athlete, as a sports apparel brand, we chose to celebrate all the people around them. It takes a village for anyone to succeed, whether you&#39;re a business, whether you&#39;re an athlete, whether you&#39;re a team. It takes everyone around you—the coaches, the parents, the trainers, the caddies. We need to credit all of those people. And that&#39;s the people we want to celebrate.&quot;... Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing</p>

<p>Welcome to Season 19 of The ModGolf Podcast! We are thrilled to kick off the new season with Hyman Ngo, Co-Founder and SVP of Product and Marketing at the premium athletic wear brand, Levelwear.</p>

<p>In this episode, Hyman takes us on a fascinating journey that began not as a startup, but as an acquisition. He shares the story of how his family transitioned from being a contract manufacturer to building the branded powerhouse that now outfits 85 of the top 100 golf clubs in the U.S and Canada.</p>

<p>We dive deep into Levelwear&#39;s unique brand ethos, exploring their powerful &quot;Who&#39;s With You&quot; manifesto and how it manifests in the real world through their innovative &quot;Caddy Lounge&quot; activation at PGA and LPGA events. Hyman also discusses the delicate balance of sustainability, the art of staying fresh in a crowded market, and how licensing deals with major leagues like the NHL and MLB help build brand legitimacy. Whether you&#39;re a golfer, an entrepreneur, or a fan of smart business strategy, this conversation is packed with insights on building a brand that lasts.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/vSA6JNOk.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways You Will Discover</strong>:<br>
<strong>The Power of Authentic Brand Building:</strong> Learn how Levelwear transitioned from a behind-the-scenes manufacturer to a coveted brand by focusing on relationships and leveraging early success in top-tier U.S. clubs (like Pebble Beach) to build credibility back home and beyond.</p>

<p><strong>Celebrating the &quot;Who&#39;s With You&quot;:</strong> Discover the philosophy behind Levelwear’s manifesto and how it led to the creation of the &quot;Caddy Lounge.&quot; This marketing activation focuses on serving the unsung heroes of the game, proving that authentic engagement with a community can be more powerful than traditional consumer-facing advertising.</p>

<p><strong>Balancing Sustainability with Performance:</strong> Hyman shares the brand&#39;s commitment to &quot;buy less, but buy better,&quot; discussing the challenges of creating durable, high-performance apparel using sustainable materials while navigating the inherent contradiction of a consumption-based business model.</p>

<p><strong>Three Quotable Moments from Hyman:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On the mentality of golf:</strong> &quot;It&#39;s one of those sports where it&#39;s not about how much you want it. The more you want it, the harder you try, the worse you seem to do. It&#39;s such a good metaphor in life.&quot;<br>
<strong>On the Levelwear brand ethos:</strong> &quot;We&#39;re choosing to celebrate all the people around the athlete as it takes a village for anyone to succeed. And that&#39;s the people we want to celebrate.&quot;<br>
<strong>On their design philosophy:</strong> &quot;The one thing about brands is you don&#39;t want to get stale. We let the designers have a bit of fun. We&#39;ll let them do some things that maybe you would never see a golf brand do. And that&#39;s part of our appeal.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then check out our extended bonus segment with Hyman on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/RngWzmyM__k" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/UuPa6HLX.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Hyman Ngo&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/hyman-ngo" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/hyman-ngo</a></p>

<p><strong>Links &amp; Resources Mentioned:</strong><br>
Levelwear Instagram: @levelwear <br>
LinkedIn: <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hyman-ngo-164b247/" rel="nofollow">Hyman Ngo</a></strong><br>
Levelwear: <a href="http://www.levelwear.com" rel="nofollow">www.levelwear.com</a> <br>
The ModGolf Podcast: <a href="http://www.mod.golf" rel="nofollow">www.mod.golf</a></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
<strong>00:00:</strong> Welcome to Season 19 and Introducing Hyman Ngo<br>
<strong>01:09:</strong> The Icebreaker: Hyman&#39;s first golf experience and the &quot;metaphor of life.&quot;<br>
<strong>04:09:</strong> Colin’s personal review of wearing Levelwear on the course.<br>
<strong>05:29:</strong> From Manufacturer to Brand: The 2004 acquisition of Levelwear.<br>
<strong>09:00:</strong> The Early Days: What the product line looked like 20 years ago and the initial struggle to grow.<br>
<strong>12:58:</strong> Breaking into the U.S. Market: How Pebble Beach validated the brand for Canadian customers.<br>
<strong>14:55:</strong> Standing Out in a Crowd: Levelwear&#39;s differentiators in a market with 400+ soft goods exhibitors.<br>
<strong>22:31:</strong> The &quot;Who&#39;s With You&quot; Manifesto: The &quot;why&quot; behind the brand.<br>
<strong>24:41:</strong> The Caddy Lounge: Honoring the unsung heroes of golf and building credibility from the ground up.<br>
<strong>26:02:</strong> Sustainability Initiatives: Seaweed materials, durability, and the &quot;buy less, buy better&quot; philosophy.<br>
<strong>35:04:</strong> The Power of Partnerships: How licensing with MLB, NHL, NBA, and the PGA Tour builds legitimacy.<br>
<strong>36:05:</strong> Peeking Behind the Design Curtain: How the team finds inspiration in streetwear and action sports to stay fresh.<br>
<strong>40:13:</strong> Where to find Levelwear &amp; Final Thoughts.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

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<p>We want to thank our partner <strong>British Columbia Golf</strong> for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!<br>
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<p>British Columbia Golf strives to create a golf environment that is respectful of participant&#39;s personal goals and is free from all forms of maltreatment. British Columbia Golf supports women golfers and players of all ages and abilities, while continually working to increase participation in the sport with programs such as the Cloud Series.</p>

<p>British Columbia Golf is the Provincial Sport Organization for golf as recognized by the Government of British Columbia and ViaSport. Golf Canada recognizes the association as the governing body within the province. British Columbia Golf provides programs benefitting golfers and the golf industry in the province. Check out their website <a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/" rel="nofollow">https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Hyman Ngo, Levelwear Co-Founder and SVP of Product/Marketing.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:subtitle>If you didn’t get the chance to listen to all of our twelve Season 18 episodes, this bonus show gives you a recap of the great conversations I had with some of the golf industry's top influencers, innovators and entrepreneurs. Hopefully this will inspire you to listen to a couple of the episodes listed below. Enjoy!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>That's a wrap for Season 18 of The ModGolf Podcast! Our team is currently working on your next twelve episodes for Season 19, which launches in March 2026. We heard some amazing stories from a diverse group of guests who discussed how innovation, inclusion, technology, entertainment, music, celebrity, hospitality and community building intersect to shape the future of golf.
If you didn’t get the chance to listen to all of our twelve Season 18 episodes, this bonus show gives you a recap of the great conversations I had with some of the golf industry's top influencers, innovators and entrepreneurs. Hopefully this will inspire you to listen to a couple of the episodes listed below. Let us know which ones you enjoyed the most and why you liked them!
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Our Season 18 guests were:
Episode 1
David Buck CEO at Big Swing Kings
In this high-energy season 18 premiere, host Colin Weston sits down with David Buck, the charismatic and hilarious founder of Big Swing Kings. David is on a mission to inject more joy and simplicity into the game of golf, moving away from over-complicated instruction and back to the fundamental truths of what makes a ball go straight.
A former professional golfer who “won’t see his name on any trophies,” David discovered his unique teaching style by accident when a video of him roasting (then instructing) a golfer’s swing went viral. He breaks down why the quest for “consistency” is often misguided, why impact is the only position that truly matters, and how he’s even learning to play left-handed to better understand the learning process for his students.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Combining Golf Entertainment and Education To Improve Your Golf Game (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/202-david-buck)
Episode 2
Kelly Gold Founder of Teefox.golf 
"Wouldn't it be cool if you could send your user a notification saying, 'hey, a tee time just opened up at that course you play all the time'? That's what we have built." Kelly Gold, Founder at TeeFox.Golf joins us to share how they remove the frustrations around trying to book a tee time while solving the $12.3 billion problem plaguing golf courses.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sniffing Out The Best Tee Times (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/203-kelly-gold)
Episode 3
Todd Keirstead - Golf Entertainer and Skin Cancer Survivor
"If I let the scars be a conversation piece, then hopefully they raise awareness and motivate people to take personal action". Todd Keirstead - Motivational Speaker | Skin Cancer Survivor | Celebrity Golf Entertainer | CEO &amp;amp; Founder of ParaGolf Canada joins us to share his personal journey with skin cancer and how the healing process shapes his world view.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Finding Purpose on The Practice Tee (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/204-todd-keirstead)
Episode 4
Tom Coyne - Best Selling Author and Founder of Coyne Golf
"I don't think people want to read books about going out and doing safe, normal things. So this idea of doing unreasonable things led me into the way I approached Ireland. The crazy idea was, I'll play Ireland as one giant golf course and I'll do it all on foot." Tom Coyne, best selling author and founder of Coyne Golf joins us to share some compelling human interest stories, his quirky travelogue, and a deep exploration of obsession with golf as the backdrop.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; A Course Called Coyne (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/205-tom-coyne)
Episode 5
Matt Erley - CEO of Old Tom Capital
Are you wondering where the real disruption in golf is happening beyond the headlines? Discover why "more people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined," and where the smartest money is betting on the game's future. Matt Erley, CEO of Old Tom Capital, explains the gaps they are filling and why he believes, "Golf is experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so."
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Fuelling Golf's Next Big Ideas (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/206-matt-erley)
Episode 6
Alex Prasad - CEO of V1 Sports
"Golfers and instructors can tell you their pain points and aspirations, but what they can't tell you is the solution. It's not their job. That's ours." Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports shares the company journey from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Creating a Unique Lesson Path For Every Golfer (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/207-alex-prasad)
Episode 7
Jonathan Sessa - Founder of The Warrior Golf Academy
What happens when you hit rock bottom and a higher power refuses to let you go? For US Army veteran Jonathan Sessa, the answer was found not in a hospital or a therapy session, but on a golf course. In this profound and powerful episode, host Colin Weston sits down with Jonathan to explore how he transformed his deepest despair into a mission of hope and healing for others through The Warrior Golf Academy.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; How Golf is Healing Heroes (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/208-jonathan-sessa)
Episode 8
Matt Fisher - Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube Channel
YouTube golf content creator Matt Fisher and host Colin Weston dissect the record-breaking success of the Internet Invitational and its over 23 million views. He explains how its raw, personality-driven format is a blueprint for the future, offering a masterclass in what modern golf fans truly want from their entertainment.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; How The Internet Invitational Sparked a Golf Media Revolution (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/209-mr-short-game)
Episode 9
Chris Kallmeyer - CEO at Golf Genius
Does your business struggle to balance culture with growth? Golf Genius CEO Chris Kallmeyer joins us to offer a masterclass in sustainable growth thats reveals how strategic business innovation, a fanatical focus on customer experience, and disciplined acquisitions fuelled their rise to a global powerhouse in the golf industry.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Scaling Success: How Golf Genius Grew Into a Global Powerhouse (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/210-chris-kallmeyer-golf-genius)
Episode 10
Devon Fox - Senior Director of Digital Programs with The PGA Tour
What if the key to innovating the PGA Tour fan experience was someone who'd never picked up a club? Meet Devon Fox, the Tour's Senior Director of Digital Programs, who reveals how asking the "weird" questions led to breakthroughs like the Fan Council and the tech behind the stunning Apple Vision Pro app. Dive into a conversation that goes beyond golf to explore the future of sports engagement, technology strategy, and creating genuine inclusion from the inside out.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; A Non-Golfer's Strategy For PGA Tour Digital Innovation (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/211-devon-fox)
Episode 11
Phillis Meti - World Long Drive Champion
What does it truly mean to win at the highest level? For World #3 Long Drive competitor Phillis Meti, victory is measured not just by the bombs she hits past 380 yards, but by the pathways she builds for those who follow. In this powerful episode, we go beyond the grid to explore how a career forged in speed and competition has evolved into a mission of mentorship and legacy. Phillis shares her incredible journey from New Zealand to the world stage, revealing the mindset shifts for longevity, the entrepreneurial ventures that fuel her, and her heartfelt mission to "pull others up" by creating educational opportunities for the next generation of student-athletes.
Discover the untold story of a champion who uses her platform to kick down doors so others can walk through. Listen for invaluable insights on golf performance, athletic mindset, sports business, and the profound impact of creating a legacy that lifts everyone higher.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Beyond The Grid: Creating Legacy Through Long Drive (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/212-phillis-meti)
Episode 12
Amaya Athill - Founder of Golf Interupted / Regional Director with Golf Canada
She was a rising lawyer until one pivotal golf event made her change everything. Amaya Athill of Golf Canada shares her incredible journey from the courtroom to the fairway, detailing the isolation she felt as a woman of colour on the course and her proven playbook to fix it. Learn the #1 secret to building trust with underrepresented communities, why access isn't just about tee times, and her top strategies for making golf more welcoming for women and kids. This conversation is a masterclass in inclusive growth for golf enthusiasts and industry leaders alike.
Click to listen &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Leaving Law to Liberate The Links (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/213-amaya-athill)
We want to thank Golf Genius Software for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?
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Golf Genius powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at golfgenius.com (https://www.golfgenius.com).
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited about our ModGolf Patreon that brings together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As a Patroen member you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
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    <![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s a wrap for Season 18 of The ModGolf Podcast! Our team is currently working on your next twelve episodes for Season 19, which launches in March 2026. We heard some amazing stories from a diverse group of guests who discussed how innovation, inclusion, technology, entertainment, music, celebrity, hospitality and community building intersect to shape the future of golf.</p>

<hr>

<p>If you didn’t get the chance to listen to all of our twelve Season 18 episodes, this bonus show gives you a recap of the great conversations I had with some of the golf industry&#39;s top influencers, innovators and entrepreneurs. Hopefully this will inspire you to listen to a couple of the episodes listed below. Let us know which ones you enjoyed the most and why you liked them!<br>
<img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/9Fv8j0lA.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Our Season 18 guests were:</strong></p>

<p>Episode 1<br>
<strong>David Buck</strong> CEO at Big Swing Kings<br>
In this high-energy season 18 premiere, host Colin Weston sits down with David Buck, the charismatic and hilarious founder of Big Swing Kings. David is on a mission to inject more joy and simplicity into the game of golf, moving away from over-complicated instruction and back to the fundamental truths of what makes a ball go straight.</p>

<p>A former professional golfer who “won’t see his name on any trophies,” David discovered his unique teaching style by accident when a video of him roasting (then instructing) a golfer’s swing went viral. He breaks down why the quest for “consistency” is often misguided, why impact is the only position that truly matters, and how he’s even learning to play left-handed to better understand the learning process for his students.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/202-david-buck" rel="nofollow">Combining Golf Entertainment and Education To Improve Your Golf Game</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 2<br>
<strong>Kelly Gold</strong> Founder of Teefox.golf <br>
&quot;Wouldn&#39;t it be cool if you could send your user a notification saying, &#39;hey, a tee time just opened up at that course you play all the time&#39;? That&#39;s what we have built.&quot; Kelly Gold, Founder at TeeFox.Golf joins us to share how they remove the frustrations around trying to book a tee time while solving the $12.3 billion problem plaguing golf courses.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/203-kelly-gold" rel="nofollow">Sniffing Out The Best Tee Times</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 3<br>
<strong>Todd Keirstead</strong> - Golf Entertainer and Skin Cancer Survivor<br>
&quot;If I let the scars be a conversation piece, then hopefully they raise awareness and motivate people to take personal action&quot;. Todd Keirstead - Motivational Speaker | Skin Cancer Survivor | Celebrity Golf Entertainer | CEO &amp; Founder of ParaGolf Canada joins us to share his personal journey with skin cancer and how the healing process shapes his world view.<br>
<strong>Click to listen</strong> &gt;&gt; <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/204-todd-keirstead" rel="nofollow">Finding Purpose on The Practice Tee</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 4<br>
<strong>Tom Coyne</strong> - Best Selling Author and Founder of Coyne Golf<br>
&quot;I don&#39;t think people want to read books about going out and doing safe, normal things. So this idea of doing unreasonable things led me into the way I approached Ireland. The crazy idea was, I&#39;ll play Ireland as one giant golf course and I&#39;ll do it all on foot.&quot; Tom Coyne, best selling author and founder of Coyne Golf joins us to share some compelling human interest stories, his quirky travelogue, and a deep exploration of obsession with golf as the backdrop.<br>
<strong>Click to listen</strong> &gt;&gt; <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/205-tom-coyne" rel="nofollow">A Course Called Coyne</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 5<br>
<strong>Matt Erley</strong> - CEO of Old Tom Capital<br>
Are you wondering where the real disruption in golf is happening beyond the headlines? Discover why &quot;more people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined,&quot; and where the smartest money is betting on the game&#39;s future. Matt Erley, CEO of Old Tom Capital, explains the gaps they are filling and why he believes, &quot;Golf is experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so.&quot;<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/206-matt-erley" rel="nofollow">Fuelling Golf&#39;s Next Big Ideas</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 6<br>
<strong>Alex Prasad</strong> - CEO of V1 Sports<br>
&quot;Golfers and instructors can tell you their pain points and aspirations, but what they can&#39;t tell you is the solution. It&#39;s not their job. That&#39;s ours.&quot; Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports shares the company journey from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/207-alex-prasad" rel="nofollow">Creating a Unique Lesson Path For Every Golfer</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 7<br>
<strong>Jonathan Sessa</strong> - Founder of The Warrior Golf Academy<br>
What happens when you hit rock bottom and a higher power refuses to let you go? For US Army veteran Jonathan Sessa, the answer was found not in a hospital or a therapy session, but on a golf course. In this profound and powerful episode, host Colin Weston sits down with Jonathan to explore how he transformed his deepest despair into a mission of hope and healing for others through The Warrior Golf Academy.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/208-jonathan-sessa" rel="nofollow">How Golf is Healing Heroes</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 8<br>
<strong>Matt Fisher</strong> - Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube Channel<br>
YouTube golf content creator Matt Fisher and host Colin Weston dissect the record-breaking success of the Internet Invitational and its over 23 million views. He explains how its raw, personality-driven format is a blueprint for the future, offering a masterclass in what modern golf fans truly want from their entertainment.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/209-mr-short-game" rel="nofollow">How The Internet Invitational Sparked a Golf Media Revolution</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 9<br>
<strong>Chris Kallmeyer</strong> - CEO at Golf Genius<br>
Does your business struggle to balance culture with growth? Golf Genius CEO Chris Kallmeyer joins us to offer a masterclass in sustainable growth thats reveals how strategic business innovation, a fanatical focus on customer experience, and disciplined acquisitions fuelled their rise to a global powerhouse in the golf industry.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/210-chris-kallmeyer-golf-genius" rel="nofollow">Scaling Success: How Golf Genius Grew Into a Global Powerhouse</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 10<br>
<strong>Devon Fox</strong> - Senior Director of Digital Programs with The PGA Tour<br>
What if the key to innovating the PGA Tour fan experience was someone who&#39;d never picked up a club? Meet Devon Fox, the Tour&#39;s Senior Director of Digital Programs, who reveals how asking the &quot;weird&quot; questions led to breakthroughs like the Fan Council and the tech behind the stunning Apple Vision Pro app. Dive into a conversation that goes beyond golf to explore the future of sports engagement, technology strategy, and creating genuine inclusion from the inside out.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/211-devon-fox" rel="nofollow">A Non-Golfer&#39;s Strategy For PGA Tour Digital Innovation</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 11<br>
<strong>Phillis Meti</strong> - World Long Drive Champion<br>
What does it truly mean to win at the highest level? For World #3 Long Drive competitor Phillis Meti, victory is measured not just by the bombs she hits past 380 yards, but by the pathways she builds for those who follow. In this powerful episode, we go beyond the grid to explore how a career forged in speed and competition has evolved into a mission of mentorship and legacy. Phillis shares her incredible journey from New Zealand to the world stage, revealing the mindset shifts for longevity, the entrepreneurial ventures that fuel her, and her heartfelt mission to &quot;pull others up&quot; by creating educational opportunities for the next generation of student-athletes.</p>

<p>Discover the untold story of a champion who uses her platform to kick down doors so others can walk through. Listen for invaluable insights on golf performance, athletic mindset, sports business, and the profound impact of creating a legacy that lifts everyone higher.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/212-phillis-meti" rel="nofollow">Beyond The Grid: Creating Legacy Through Long Drive</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 12<br>
<strong>Amaya Athill</strong> - Founder of Golf Interupted / Regional Director with Golf Canada<br>
She was a rising lawyer until one pivotal golf event made her change everything. Amaya Athill of Golf Canada shares her incredible journey from the courtroom to the fairway, detailing the isolation she felt as a woman of colour on the course and her proven playbook to fix it. Learn the #1 secret to building trust with underrepresented communities, why access isn&#39;t just about tee times, and her top strategies for making golf more welcoming for women and kids. This conversation is a masterclass in inclusive growth for golf enthusiasts and industry leaders alike.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/213-amaya-athill" rel="nofollow">Leaving Law to Liberate The Links</a></strong></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited about our ModGolf Patreon that brings together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As a Patroen member you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guests: Alex Prasad - CEO at V1 Sports, Amaya Athill - Founder of Golf Interrupted / Regional Director with Golf Canada, Chris Kallmeyer, CEO at Golf Genius Software, Devon Fox - Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour, Jonathan Sessa - Founder of The Warrior Golf Academy, Kelly Gold - Founder at TeeFox.Golf, Matt Erley - Managing Partner at Old Tom Capital, Matt Fisher, Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube channel, Phillis Meti: World Long Drive Champion, Entrepreneur, and Legacy Builder, Todd Keirstead - golf entertainer and skin cancer survivor, and Tom Coyne - best selling writer and Founder of Coyne Golf.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s a wrap for Season 18 of The ModGolf Podcast! Our team is currently working on your next twelve episodes for Season 19, which launches in March 2026. We heard some amazing stories from a diverse group of guests who discussed how innovation, inclusion, technology, entertainment, music, celebrity, hospitality and community building intersect to shape the future of golf.</p>

<hr>

<p>If you didn’t get the chance to listen to all of our twelve Season 18 episodes, this bonus show gives you a recap of the great conversations I had with some of the golf industry&#39;s top influencers, innovators and entrepreneurs. Hopefully this will inspire you to listen to a couple of the episodes listed below. Let us know which ones you enjoyed the most and why you liked them!<br>
<img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/9Fv8j0lA.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Our Season 18 guests were:</strong></p>

<p>Episode 1<br>
<strong>David Buck</strong> CEO at Big Swing Kings<br>
In this high-energy season 18 premiere, host Colin Weston sits down with David Buck, the charismatic and hilarious founder of Big Swing Kings. David is on a mission to inject more joy and simplicity into the game of golf, moving away from over-complicated instruction and back to the fundamental truths of what makes a ball go straight.</p>

<p>A former professional golfer who “won’t see his name on any trophies,” David discovered his unique teaching style by accident when a video of him roasting (then instructing) a golfer’s swing went viral. He breaks down why the quest for “consistency” is often misguided, why impact is the only position that truly matters, and how he’s even learning to play left-handed to better understand the learning process for his students.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/202-david-buck" rel="nofollow">Combining Golf Entertainment and Education To Improve Your Golf Game</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 2<br>
<strong>Kelly Gold</strong> Founder of Teefox.golf <br>
&quot;Wouldn&#39;t it be cool if you could send your user a notification saying, &#39;hey, a tee time just opened up at that course you play all the time&#39;? That&#39;s what we have built.&quot; Kelly Gold, Founder at TeeFox.Golf joins us to share how they remove the frustrations around trying to book a tee time while solving the $12.3 billion problem plaguing golf courses.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/203-kelly-gold" rel="nofollow">Sniffing Out The Best Tee Times</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 3<br>
<strong>Todd Keirstead</strong> - Golf Entertainer and Skin Cancer Survivor<br>
&quot;If I let the scars be a conversation piece, then hopefully they raise awareness and motivate people to take personal action&quot;. Todd Keirstead - Motivational Speaker | Skin Cancer Survivor | Celebrity Golf Entertainer | CEO &amp; Founder of ParaGolf Canada joins us to share his personal journey with skin cancer and how the healing process shapes his world view.<br>
<strong>Click to listen</strong> &gt;&gt; <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/204-todd-keirstead" rel="nofollow">Finding Purpose on The Practice Tee</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 4<br>
<strong>Tom Coyne</strong> - Best Selling Author and Founder of Coyne Golf<br>
&quot;I don&#39;t think people want to read books about going out and doing safe, normal things. So this idea of doing unreasonable things led me into the way I approached Ireland. The crazy idea was, I&#39;ll play Ireland as one giant golf course and I&#39;ll do it all on foot.&quot; Tom Coyne, best selling author and founder of Coyne Golf joins us to share some compelling human interest stories, his quirky travelogue, and a deep exploration of obsession with golf as the backdrop.<br>
<strong>Click to listen</strong> &gt;&gt; <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/205-tom-coyne" rel="nofollow">A Course Called Coyne</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 5<br>
<strong>Matt Erley</strong> - CEO of Old Tom Capital<br>
Are you wondering where the real disruption in golf is happening beyond the headlines? Discover why &quot;more people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined,&quot; and where the smartest money is betting on the game&#39;s future. Matt Erley, CEO of Old Tom Capital, explains the gaps they are filling and why he believes, &quot;Golf is experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so.&quot;<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/206-matt-erley" rel="nofollow">Fuelling Golf&#39;s Next Big Ideas</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 6<br>
<strong>Alex Prasad</strong> - CEO of V1 Sports<br>
&quot;Golfers and instructors can tell you their pain points and aspirations, but what they can&#39;t tell you is the solution. It&#39;s not their job. That&#39;s ours.&quot; Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports shares the company journey from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/207-alex-prasad" rel="nofollow">Creating a Unique Lesson Path For Every Golfer</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 7<br>
<strong>Jonathan Sessa</strong> - Founder of The Warrior Golf Academy<br>
What happens when you hit rock bottom and a higher power refuses to let you go? For US Army veteran Jonathan Sessa, the answer was found not in a hospital or a therapy session, but on a golf course. In this profound and powerful episode, host Colin Weston sits down with Jonathan to explore how he transformed his deepest despair into a mission of hope and healing for others through The Warrior Golf Academy.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/208-jonathan-sessa" rel="nofollow">How Golf is Healing Heroes</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 8<br>
<strong>Matt Fisher</strong> - Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube Channel<br>
YouTube golf content creator Matt Fisher and host Colin Weston dissect the record-breaking success of the Internet Invitational and its over 23 million views. He explains how its raw, personality-driven format is a blueprint for the future, offering a masterclass in what modern golf fans truly want from their entertainment.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/209-mr-short-game" rel="nofollow">How The Internet Invitational Sparked a Golf Media Revolution</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 9<br>
<strong>Chris Kallmeyer</strong> - CEO at Golf Genius<br>
Does your business struggle to balance culture with growth? Golf Genius CEO Chris Kallmeyer joins us to offer a masterclass in sustainable growth thats reveals how strategic business innovation, a fanatical focus on customer experience, and disciplined acquisitions fuelled their rise to a global powerhouse in the golf industry.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/210-chris-kallmeyer-golf-genius" rel="nofollow">Scaling Success: How Golf Genius Grew Into a Global Powerhouse</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 10<br>
<strong>Devon Fox</strong> - Senior Director of Digital Programs with The PGA Tour<br>
What if the key to innovating the PGA Tour fan experience was someone who&#39;d never picked up a club? Meet Devon Fox, the Tour&#39;s Senior Director of Digital Programs, who reveals how asking the &quot;weird&quot; questions led to breakthroughs like the Fan Council and the tech behind the stunning Apple Vision Pro app. Dive into a conversation that goes beyond golf to explore the future of sports engagement, technology strategy, and creating genuine inclusion from the inside out.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/211-devon-fox" rel="nofollow">A Non-Golfer&#39;s Strategy For PGA Tour Digital Innovation</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 11<br>
<strong>Phillis Meti</strong> - World Long Drive Champion<br>
What does it truly mean to win at the highest level? For World #3 Long Drive competitor Phillis Meti, victory is measured not just by the bombs she hits past 380 yards, but by the pathways she builds for those who follow. In this powerful episode, we go beyond the grid to explore how a career forged in speed and competition has evolved into a mission of mentorship and legacy. Phillis shares her incredible journey from New Zealand to the world stage, revealing the mindset shifts for longevity, the entrepreneurial ventures that fuel her, and her heartfelt mission to &quot;pull others up&quot; by creating educational opportunities for the next generation of student-athletes.</p>

<p>Discover the untold story of a champion who uses her platform to kick down doors so others can walk through. Listen for invaluable insights on golf performance, athletic mindset, sports business, and the profound impact of creating a legacy that lifts everyone higher.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/212-phillis-meti" rel="nofollow">Beyond The Grid: Creating Legacy Through Long Drive</a></strong></p>

<p>Episode 12<br>
<strong>Amaya Athill</strong> - Founder of Golf Interupted / Regional Director with Golf Canada<br>
She was a rising lawyer until one pivotal golf event made her change everything. Amaya Athill of Golf Canada shares her incredible journey from the courtroom to the fairway, detailing the isolation she felt as a woman of colour on the course and her proven playbook to fix it. Learn the #1 secret to building trust with underrepresented communities, why access isn&#39;t just about tee times, and her top strategies for making golf more welcoming for women and kids. This conversation is a masterclass in inclusive growth for golf enthusiasts and industry leaders alike.<br>
<strong>Click to listen &gt;&gt;</strong> <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/213-amaya-athill" rel="nofollow">Leaving Law to Liberate The Links</a></strong></p>

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<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
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<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited about our ModGolf Patreon that brings together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As a Patroen member you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guests: Alex Prasad - CEO at V1 Sports, Amaya Athill - Founder of Golf Interrupted / Regional Director with Golf Canada, Chris Kallmeyer, CEO at Golf Genius Software, Devon Fox - Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour, Jonathan Sessa - Founder of The Warrior Golf Academy, Kelly Gold - Founder at TeeFox.Golf, Matt Erley - Managing Partner at Old Tom Capital, Matt Fisher, Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube channel, Phillis Meti: World Long Drive Champion, Entrepreneur, and Legacy Builder, Todd Keirstead - golf entertainer and skin cancer survivor, and Tom Coyne - best selling writer and Founder of Coyne Golf.</p>]]>
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  <title>Live from The PGA Show 2026: Startups From The Inventors Spotlight</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What if a mobile, easy to use device on the golf course could save more than the 500 lives that it already has? What if your backyard golf practice could feel more like a video game? In this live episode from the 2026 PGA Show, host Colin Weston scours the Inventors Spotlight to find two startups changing the game. First, discover the HEATbox, a life-saving device that uses video guidance to help bystanders treat heat strokes on the course. Then hear how Black Hole Golf is gamifying at-home practice with light-up, sound-enabled targets and a connected app.

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  <description>Welcome to a bonus episode of The ModGolf Podcast, live from the floor of the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando! Host Colin Weston continues his "short and sharp" interviews, heading back to the Inventors Spotlight to find the most intriguing and impactful new startups in the game.
This 10-minute power session features two very different but equally innovative companies. First, we explore a groundbreaking safety solution designed to address the rising threat of heat-related illnesses on the course. Then, we shift gears to discover a fun, new way to gamify at-home practice and bring the entertainment of the range to your own backyard.
From life-saving technology to interactive gaming, discover how these entrepreneurs are shaping the future of the golf experience.
Featured Innovators
Conor Martins - Founder &amp;amp; CEO, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox
Gavin Cayenne - VP of Sales, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox
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Brad Thompson - Founder &amp;amp; Creator, Black Hole Golf
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Key takeaways that you will discover:
Golf Courses Need a Heat-Stroke Protocol, Not Just an AED. The team at Rapid Risk Reduction highlights a critical gap in course safety. Just as AEDs are standard for cardiac events, courses need accessible, idiot-proof tools for heat-related emergencies. The HEATbox's built-in video instruction ensures anyone, regardless of training, can step in and help during the critical minutes before medical help arrives.
Practice Doesn't Have to Feel Like Practice. Brad from Black Hole Golf is tapping into the power of gamification to change golfer behavior. By combining physical, interactive targets with a digital app for scoring and leaderboards, he’s created a product that makes skill-building fun, social, and accessible anywhere. It’s a solution that solves the problem of mundane practice by turning the backyard into an entertainment venue.
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A) live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on this link (https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A) or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.
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What You'll Discover in This Episode
Chapter 1: [0:00] Welcome Back to ModGolf LIVE!
Colin sets the scene from the PGA Show floor, introducing his mission to highlight early-stage growth companies from the Inventors Showcase.
Chapter 2: [1:15] Introducing Rapid Risk Reduction &amp;amp; The HEATbox
Conor Martins shares the origin story of his company, which started with an opioid reversal tool that saved over 500 lives, and explains why they pivoted to address the growing problem of heat strokes in golf.
Chapter 3: [3:00] HEATbox Demo: The AED for Heat Strokes
Gavin Cayenne, a former PGA professional, provides a hands-on demo of the HEATbox. He walks us through its three key components: the heat stress kit, the hydration pack, and the revolutionary video technology that guides any bystander through an emergency with bilingual instructions.
Chapter 4: [6:00] Instilling Confidence in a Crisis
The team discusses the importance of "bystander response" and how the HEATbox’s video guidance gives users the confidence to act immediately, potentially saving lives on remote parts of the course where EMS is 15-20 minutes away.
Chapter 5: [7:45] Black Hole Golf: Marrying Tradition with Entertainment
Colin meets Brad Thompson, drawn in by the intriguing name "Black Hole Golf." Brad explains his mission to create a gamified practice experience for any open space, blending the feel of traditional golf with the entertainment value of Topgolf.
Chapter 6: [8:45] The Black Hole Golf Demo
Brad showcases his interactive system, featuring light-up, sound-making target discs that work with real golf balls from 10 to 200+ yards. He explains how the companion app tracks points, creates leaderboards, and allows you to challenge friends, making practice feel like a game, especially at night.
Chapter 7: [9:45] Where to Find Them &amp;amp; The Journey Ahead
Brad announces the beta launch for Black Hole Golf and invites listeners to sign up. Conor and Gavin provide their contact information and a special show deal for the HEATbox.
Resources &amp;amp; Links
Learn more about HEATbox &amp;amp; Rapid Risk Reduction (R3):
Website: www.rthree.io 
Social Media: @RapidRiskReduction
PGA Show Special: Get two free HEATboxes with the purchase of 15.
Join the Black Hole Golf Beta:
Website (for Beta sign-up): www.blackholegolf.com/PGA
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
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    <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to a bonus episode of The ModGolf Podcast, live from the floor of the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando! Host Colin Weston continues his &quot;short and sharp&quot; interviews, heading back to the Inventors Spotlight to find the most intriguing and impactful new startups in the game.</p>

<p>This 10-minute power session features two very different but equally innovative companies. First, we explore a groundbreaking safety solution designed to address the rising threat of heat-related illnesses on the course. Then, we shift gears to discover a fun, new way to gamify at-home practice and bring the entertainment of the range to your own backyard.</p>

<p>From life-saving technology to interactive gaming, discover how these entrepreneurs are shaping the future of the golf experience.</p>

<p><strong>Featured Innovators</strong><br>
<strong>Conor Martins</strong> - Founder &amp; CEO, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox<br>
<strong>Gavin Cayenne</strong> - VP of Sales, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox<br>
<img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ErQXeTm3.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Brad Thompson</strong> - Founder &amp; Creator, Black Hole Golf<br>
<img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/WMmcho-X.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways that you will discover:</strong><br>
Golf Courses Need a Heat-Stroke Protocol, Not Just an AED. The team at Rapid Risk Reduction highlights a critical gap in course safety. Just as AEDs are standard for cardiac events, courses need accessible, idiot-proof tools for heat-related emergencies. The HEATbox&#39;s built-in video instruction ensures anyone, regardless of training, can step in and help during the critical minutes before medical help arrives.</p>

<p>Practice Doesn&#39;t Have to Feel Like Practice. Brad from Black Hole Golf is tapping into the power of gamification to change golfer behavior. By combining physical, interactive targets with a digital app for scoring and leaderboards, he’s created a product that makes skill-building fun, social, and accessible anywhere. It’s a solution that solves the problem of mundane practice by turning the backyard into an entertainment venue.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/pyJqGHFN.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>What You&#39;ll Discover in This Episode</strong><br>
<strong>Chapter 1: [0:00] Welcome Back to ModGolf LIVE!</strong><br>
Colin sets the scene from the PGA Show floor, introducing his mission to highlight early-stage growth companies from the Inventors Showcase.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 2: [1:15] Introducing Rapid Risk Reduction &amp; The HEATbox</strong><br>
Conor Martins shares the origin story of his company, which started with an opioid reversal tool that saved over 500 lives, and explains why they pivoted to address the growing problem of heat strokes in golf.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 3: [3:00] HEATbox Demo: The AED for Heat Strokes</strong><br>
Gavin Cayenne, a former PGA professional, provides a hands-on demo of the HEATbox. He walks us through its three key components: the heat stress kit, the hydration pack, and the revolutionary video technology that guides any bystander through an emergency with bilingual instructions.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 4: [6:00] Instilling Confidence in a Crisis</strong><br>
The team discusses the importance of &quot;bystander response&quot; and how the HEATbox’s video guidance gives users the confidence to act immediately, potentially saving lives on remote parts of the course where EMS is 15-20 minutes away.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 5: [7:45] Black Hole Golf: Marrying Tradition with Entertainment</strong><br>
Colin meets Brad Thompson, drawn in by the intriguing name &quot;Black Hole Golf.&quot; Brad explains his mission to create a gamified practice experience for any open space, blending the feel of traditional golf with the entertainment value of Topgolf.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 6: [8:45] The Black Hole Golf Demo</strong><br>
Brad showcases his interactive system, featuring light-up, sound-making target discs that work with real golf balls from 10 to 200+ yards. He explains how the companion app tracks points, creates leaderboards, and allows you to challenge friends, making practice feel like a game, especially at night.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 7: [9:45] Where to Find Them &amp; The Journey Ahead</strong><br>
Brad announces the beta launch for Black Hole Golf and invites listeners to sign up. Conor and Gavin provide their contact information and a special show deal for the HEATbox.</p>

<p><strong>Resources &amp; Links</strong><br>
Learn more about HEATbox &amp; Rapid Risk Reduction (R3):<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.rthree.io" rel="nofollow">www.rthree.io</a> <br>
Social Media: @RapidRiskReduction<br>
PGA Show Special: Get two free HEATboxes with the purchase of 15.</p>

<p>Join the Black Hole Golf Beta:<br>
Website (for Beta sign-up): <a href="http://www.blackholegolf.com/PGA" rel="nofollow">www.blackholegolf.com/PGA</a></p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to a bonus episode of The ModGolf Podcast, live from the floor of the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando! Host Colin Weston continues his &quot;short and sharp&quot; interviews, heading back to the Inventors Spotlight to find the most intriguing and impactful new startups in the game.</p>

<p>This 10-minute power session features two very different but equally innovative companies. First, we explore a groundbreaking safety solution designed to address the rising threat of heat-related illnesses on the course. Then, we shift gears to discover a fun, new way to gamify at-home practice and bring the entertainment of the range to your own backyard.</p>

<p>From life-saving technology to interactive gaming, discover how these entrepreneurs are shaping the future of the golf experience.</p>

<p><strong>Featured Innovators</strong><br>
<strong>Conor Martins</strong> - Founder &amp; CEO, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox<br>
<strong>Gavin Cayenne</strong> - VP of Sales, Rapid Risk Reduction (R3) and HEATbox<br>
<img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ErQXeTm3.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Brad Thompson</strong> - Founder &amp; Creator, Black Hole Golf<br>
<img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/WMmcho-X.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways that you will discover:</strong><br>
Golf Courses Need a Heat-Stroke Protocol, Not Just an AED. The team at Rapid Risk Reduction highlights a critical gap in course safety. Just as AEDs are standard for cardiac events, courses need accessible, idiot-proof tools for heat-related emergencies. The HEATbox&#39;s built-in video instruction ensures anyone, regardless of training, can step in and help during the critical minutes before medical help arrives.</p>

<p>Practice Doesn&#39;t Have to Feel Like Practice. Brad from Black Hole Golf is tapping into the power of gamification to change golfer behavior. By combining physical, interactive targets with a digital app for scoring and leaderboards, he’s created a product that makes skill-building fun, social, and accessible anywhere. It’s a solution that solves the problem of mundane practice by turning the backyard into an entertainment venue.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/VDNTYrK_L1A" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/pyJqGHFN.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>What You&#39;ll Discover in This Episode</strong><br>
<strong>Chapter 1: [0:00] Welcome Back to ModGolf LIVE!</strong><br>
Colin sets the scene from the PGA Show floor, introducing his mission to highlight early-stage growth companies from the Inventors Showcase.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 2: [1:15] Introducing Rapid Risk Reduction &amp; The HEATbox</strong><br>
Conor Martins shares the origin story of his company, which started with an opioid reversal tool that saved over 500 lives, and explains why they pivoted to address the growing problem of heat strokes in golf.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 3: [3:00] HEATbox Demo: The AED for Heat Strokes</strong><br>
Gavin Cayenne, a former PGA professional, provides a hands-on demo of the HEATbox. He walks us through its three key components: the heat stress kit, the hydration pack, and the revolutionary video technology that guides any bystander through an emergency with bilingual instructions.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 4: [6:00] Instilling Confidence in a Crisis</strong><br>
The team discusses the importance of &quot;bystander response&quot; and how the HEATbox’s video guidance gives users the confidence to act immediately, potentially saving lives on remote parts of the course where EMS is 15-20 minutes away.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 5: [7:45] Black Hole Golf: Marrying Tradition with Entertainment</strong><br>
Colin meets Brad Thompson, drawn in by the intriguing name &quot;Black Hole Golf.&quot; Brad explains his mission to create a gamified practice experience for any open space, blending the feel of traditional golf with the entertainment value of Topgolf.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 6: [8:45] The Black Hole Golf Demo</strong><br>
Brad showcases his interactive system, featuring light-up, sound-making target discs that work with real golf balls from 10 to 200+ yards. He explains how the companion app tracks points, creates leaderboards, and allows you to challenge friends, making practice feel like a game, especially at night.</p>

<p><strong>Chapter 7: [9:45] Where to Find Them &amp; The Journey Ahead</strong><br>
Brad announces the beta launch for Black Hole Golf and invites listeners to sign up. Conor and Gavin provide their contact information and a special show deal for the HEATbox.</p>

<p><strong>Resources &amp; Links</strong><br>
Learn more about HEATbox &amp; Rapid Risk Reduction (R3):<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.rthree.io" rel="nofollow">www.rthree.io</a> <br>
Social Media: @RapidRiskReduction<br>
PGA Show Special: Get two free HEATboxes with the purchase of 15.</p>

<p>Join the Black Hole Golf Beta:<br>
Website (for Beta sign-up): <a href="http://www.blackholegolf.com/PGA" rel="nofollow">www.blackholegolf.com/PGA</a></p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

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  <title>Live from The PGA Show 2026:  Inside Golf's AI Revolution with CourseRev.ai &amp; PITCHcrm</title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 07:15:00 -0800</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What happens when a 30-year golf course veteran decides to become the "main guinea pig" for his own tech company? In this live episode from the 2026 PGA Show, we sit down with the team behind CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm to explore how AI phone concierges and automated marketing are solving the industry's biggest labor pains. From balancing deep customization with scalable growth to using natural language programming for complex tee sheet rules, discover how these entrepreneurs are helping tradition-bound courses embrace the future without losing their human touch. Perfect for listeners interested in golf technology, AI adoption, SaaS entrepreneurship, and business innovation in legacy industries.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Host: Colin Weston
Guests: Del Ratcliffe (President, CourseRev.ai), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai)
Duration: 28 Minutes
In this episode of ModGolf LIVE, recorded on the show floor at the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston sits down with the leadership team behind CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm. This isn't just a conversation about technology; it's a deep dive into the real-world challenges of getting a tradition-rich industry to adopt modern solutions.
Colin is joined by Del Ratcliffe (President of CourseRev.ai &amp;amp; COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), and Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai). Together, they discuss the "secret sauce" of their tech stack - from an AI voice concierge that answers the phone to a CRM that automates marketing - and how they balance cutting-edge AI with the human touch required to train course operators.
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Del, bringing his 30+ years of course ownership experience, shares why he’s the "main guinea pig" for the products, how they handle the complexity of different golf course business models, and why getting a course to use the tech is harder than selling it. The team also teases the future of dynamic pricing using unstructured data and explains why AI isn't about replacing staff, but about freeing them up to create better face-to-face experiences.
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg) live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on this link (https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg) or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/YaYYQdiW.jpg (https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg) 
Key Topics &amp;amp; Discussion Points
Live from the PGA Show: Colin introduces a "3x" interview with three guests representing two integrated companies.
What is CourseRev AI? An AI-powered voice and chat concierge designed to handle tee time bookings, modifications, and general questions, taking the pressure off pro shop staff.
The "Main Guinea Pig": How Del Ratcliffe’s role as a multi-course operator (Pinnacle Golf Properties) allows the tech team to build solutions that solve real, painful problems.
Introducing PITCHcrm: The "oldest product" in the family (since 2012) that automates email and SMS marketing based on customer reservation history, no-shows, and behavior.
The Adoption Hurdle: Why selling the software is easy, but onboarding and training staff on how to use it is the real challenge in a non-early-adopter industry.
Customization vs. Scaling: How the team handles the fact that no two golf courses are alike. Chris Hill explains how they now use natural language programming to quickly customize AI rules for specific course restrictions (e.g., "no seniors after 2 PM on Saturday").
Dynamic Pricing Deep Dive: The debate among owners about surge pricing, and how CourseRev.ai integrates instantly with tee sheets to reflect pricing changes.
The Tease: Chris Hill hints at new dynamic pricing strategies that use unstructured data (like weather and demand factors) in ways humans never could.
Serving Different Course Types: How the technology adapts to MCOs (Multi-Course Operators) with one clubhouse vs. multiple locations spread across states.
The "Robocall" Fear: Addressing the misconception that AI phone answering is like the frustrating automated systems of 10 years ago.
AI &amp;amp; Employment: The team confirms that AI isn't eliminating jobs; it’s allowing staff to focus on high-value, face-to-face interactions in the pro shop.
Measuring Success: Using AI to track KPIs, identify frequently asked questions, and help course operators improve their websites and customer service.
Notable Quotes
Del on the Industry: "We're still largely an industry of mom-and-pop operations out there. Change is not real easy for us to overcome, and it can be scary, too."
Chris on Tech Debt: "With AI, we can actually implement that much easier rather than trying to build something really rigid and structured in code. We can just write that now in natural language."
Matt on Staffing: "Everyone listening to this has probably been in a situation where you've been in the pro shop and the guy's on two phones. It's definitely not eliminating staff because then you can even get more face-to-face quality interactions."
Colin on Entrepreneurship: "If you don't have challenges as a startup you need to challenge yourself more. Like me with snowboarding, if you're not falling down you're not going fast enough."
Resources &amp;amp; Links
Learn more about CourseRev.ai: https://www.courserev.ai
Email CourseRev: hello@courserev.ai
Learn more about PITCHcrm: https://www.pitchcrm.com
Want to connect with Del? Check out his bio page (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe) to make that happen! &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe
Timestamps
[00:00] - Cold Open: Colin introduces the "3x" interview at the 2026 PGA Show
[01:30] - Guest Introductions: Del Ratcliffe, Matt Wade, and Chris Hill
[03:00] - What is CourseRev.ai? Solving the pro shop phone pressure with an AI concierge
[04:45] - Del's Dual Role: The President of CourseRev.ai as the client (COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties)
[07:15] - The Tech Stack Explained: How PITCHcrm integrates with CourseRev.ai for marketing automation
[09:00] - The Education Gap: Why golf course owners are laggards in tech adoption and how to warm them up to AI
[12:00] - Customer Success Story: *The journey from reluctance to evangelism
*[15:30] - Balancing Customization &amp;amp; Scale: How the team handles the "mom-and-pop" nature of different courses using natural language AI
[19:15] - The Human Element: Onboarding staff and using the "Notice Board" for real-time course conditions
[21:45] - Dynamic Pricing: Agonizing over surge pricing and how AI uses unstructured data to predict demand
[24:30] - One Size Doesn't Fit All: Differentiating tech needs for MCOs, daily fee, municipal, and private clubs
[28:00] - Overcoming Misconceptions: Why this isn't the frustrating automated attendant of the past
[30:00] - AI &amp;amp; Jobs: How automation creates more valuable face-to-face roles in the pro shop
[31:15] - How to Connect: Finding CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm online
[32:00] - Wrap Up: Colin teases the "Innovators Spotlight" mini-segments coming up next
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
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    <![CDATA[<p>Host: Colin Weston<br>
Guests: Del Ratcliffe (President, CourseRev.ai), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai)<br>
Duration: 28 Minutes</p>

<p>In this episode of ModGolf LIVE, recorded on the show floor at the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston sits down with the leadership team behind CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm. This isn&#39;t just a conversation about technology; it&#39;s a deep dive into the real-world challenges of getting a tradition-rich industry to adopt modern solutions.</p>

<p>Colin is joined by Del Ratcliffe (President of CourseRev.ai &amp; COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), and Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai). Together, they discuss the &quot;secret sauce&quot; of their tech stack - from an AI voice concierge that answers the phone to a CRM that automates marketing - and how they balance cutting-edge AI with the human touch required to train course operators.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/JleuBelY.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p>Del, bringing his 30+ years of course ownership experience, shares why he’s the &quot;main guinea pig&quot; for the products, how they handle the complexity of different golf course business models, and why getting a course to use the tech is harder than selling it. The team also teases the future of dynamic pricing using unstructured data and explains why AI isn&#39;t about replacing staff, but about freeing them up to create better face-to-face experiences.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/YaYYQdiW.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Key Topics &amp; Discussion Points</strong><br>
<strong>Live from the PGA Show:</strong> Colin introduces a &quot;3x&quot; interview with three guests representing two integrated companies.</p>

<p><strong>What is CourseRev AI?</strong> An AI-powered voice and chat concierge designed to handle tee time bookings, modifications, and general questions, taking the pressure off pro shop staff.</p>

<p><strong>The &quot;Main Guinea Pig&quot;:</strong> How Del Ratcliffe’s role as a multi-course operator (Pinnacle Golf Properties) allows the tech team to build solutions that solve real, painful problems.</p>

<p><strong>Introducing PITCHcrm:</strong> The &quot;oldest product&quot; in the family (since 2012) that automates email and SMS marketing based on customer reservation history, no-shows, and behavior.</p>

<p><strong>The Adoption Hurdle:</strong> Why selling the software is easy, but onboarding and training staff on how to use it is the real challenge in a non-early-adopter industry.</p>

<p><strong>Customization vs. Scaling:</strong> How the team handles the fact that no two golf courses are alike. Chris Hill explains how they now use natural language programming to quickly customize AI rules for specific course restrictions (e.g., &quot;no seniors after 2 PM on Saturday&quot;).</p>

<p><strong>Dynamic Pricing Deep Dive:</strong> The debate among owners about surge pricing, and how CourseRev.ai integrates instantly with tee sheets to reflect pricing changes.</p>

<p><strong>The Tease:</strong> Chris Hill hints at new dynamic pricing strategies that use unstructured data (like weather and demand factors) in ways humans never could.</p>

<p><strong>Serving Different Course Types:</strong> How the technology adapts to MCOs (Multi-Course Operators) with one clubhouse vs. multiple locations spread across states.</p>

<p><strong>The &quot;Robocall&quot; Fear:</strong> Addressing the misconception that AI phone answering is like the frustrating automated systems of 10 years ago.</p>

<p><strong>AI &amp; Employment:</strong> The team confirms that AI isn&#39;t eliminating jobs; it’s allowing staff to focus on high-value, face-to-face interactions in the pro shop.</p>

<p><strong>Measuring Success:</strong> Using AI to track KPIs, identify frequently asked questions, and help course operators improve their websites and customer service.</p>

<p><strong>Notable Quotes</strong><br>
<strong>Del on the Industry:</strong> &quot;We&#39;re still largely an industry of mom-and-pop operations out there. Change is not real easy for us to overcome, and it can be scary, too.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Chris on Tech Debt:</strong> &quot;With AI, we can actually implement that much easier rather than trying to build something really rigid and structured in code. We can just write that now in natural language.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Matt on Staffing:</strong> &quot;Everyone listening to this has probably been in a situation where you&#39;ve been in the pro shop and the guy&#39;s on two phones. It&#39;s definitely not eliminating staff because then you can even get more face-to-face quality interactions.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Colin on Entrepreneurship:</strong> &quot;If you don&#39;t have challenges as a startup you need to challenge yourself more. Like me with snowboarding, if you&#39;re not falling down you&#39;re not going fast enough.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Resources &amp; Links</strong><br>
Learn more about CourseRev.ai: <a href="https://www.courserev.ai" rel="nofollow">https://www.courserev.ai</a><br>
Email CourseRev: <a href="mailto:hello@courserev.ai" rel="nofollow">hello@courserev.ai</a><br>
Learn more about PITCHcrm: <a href="https://www.pitchcrm.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.pitchcrm.com</a></p>

<p>Want to connect with Del? Check out his <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe" rel="nofollow">bio page</a></strong> to make that happen! &gt;&gt; <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe</a></p>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
<strong>[00:00] - Cold Open</strong>: Colin introduces the &quot;3x&quot; interview at the 2026 PGA Show<br>
<strong>[01:30] - Guest Introductions:</strong> Del Ratcliffe, Matt Wade, and Chris Hill<br>
<strong>[03:00] - What is CourseRev.ai?</strong> Solving the pro shop phone pressure with an AI concierge<br>
<strong>[04:45] - Del&#39;s Dual Role:</strong> The President of CourseRev.ai as the client (COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties)<br>
<strong>[07:15] - The Tech Stack Explained:</strong> How PITCHcrm integrates with CourseRev.ai for marketing automation<br>
<strong>[09:00] - The Education Gap:</strong> Why golf course owners are laggards in tech adoption and how to warm them up to AI<br>
<strong>[12:00] - Customer Success Story: *<em>The journey from reluctance to evangelism<br>
*</em>[15:30] - Balancing Customization &amp; Scale:</strong> How the team handles the &quot;mom-and-pop&quot; nature of different courses using natural language AI<br>
<strong>[19:15] - The Human Element:</strong> Onboarding staff and using the &quot;Notice Board&quot; for real-time course conditions<br>
<strong>[21:45] - Dynamic Pricing:</strong> Agonizing over surge pricing and how AI uses unstructured data to predict demand<br>
<strong>[24:30] - One Size Doesn&#39;t Fit All:</strong> Differentiating tech needs for MCOs, daily fee, municipal, and private clubs<br>
<strong>[28:00] - Overcoming Misconceptions:</strong> Why this isn&#39;t the frustrating automated attendant of the past<br>
<strong>[30:00] - AI &amp; Jobs:</strong> How automation creates more valuable face-to-face roles in the pro shop<br>
<strong>[31:15] - How to Connect:</strong> Finding CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm online<br>
<strong>[32:00] - Wrap Up:</strong> Colin teases the &quot;Innovators Spotlight&quot; mini-segments coming up next</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Host: Colin Weston<br>
Guests: Del Ratcliffe (President, CourseRev.ai), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai)<br>
Duration: 28 Minutes</p>

<p>In this episode of ModGolf LIVE, recorded on the show floor at the 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston sits down with the leadership team behind CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm. This isn&#39;t just a conversation about technology; it&#39;s a deep dive into the real-world challenges of getting a tradition-rich industry to adopt modern solutions.</p>

<p>Colin is joined by Del Ratcliffe (President of CourseRev.ai &amp; COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties), Matt Wade (VP of Product, PITCHcrm), and Chris Hill (CTO, CourseRev.ai). Together, they discuss the &quot;secret sauce&quot; of their tech stack - from an AI voice concierge that answers the phone to a CRM that automates marketing - and how they balance cutting-edge AI with the human touch required to train course operators.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/JleuBelY.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p>Del, bringing his 30+ years of course ownership experience, shares why he’s the &quot;main guinea pig&quot; for the products, how they handle the complexity of different golf course business models, and why getting a course to use the tech is harder than selling it. The team also teases the future of dynamic pricing using unstructured data and explains why AI isn&#39;t about replacing staff, but about freeing them up to create better face-to-face experiences.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Del, Chris and Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as we extend our podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/otV6-1ERgpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/YaYYQdiW.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Key Topics &amp; Discussion Points</strong><br>
<strong>Live from the PGA Show:</strong> Colin introduces a &quot;3x&quot; interview with three guests representing two integrated companies.</p>

<p><strong>What is CourseRev AI?</strong> An AI-powered voice and chat concierge designed to handle tee time bookings, modifications, and general questions, taking the pressure off pro shop staff.</p>

<p><strong>The &quot;Main Guinea Pig&quot;:</strong> How Del Ratcliffe’s role as a multi-course operator (Pinnacle Golf Properties) allows the tech team to build solutions that solve real, painful problems.</p>

<p><strong>Introducing PITCHcrm:</strong> The &quot;oldest product&quot; in the family (since 2012) that automates email and SMS marketing based on customer reservation history, no-shows, and behavior.</p>

<p><strong>The Adoption Hurdle:</strong> Why selling the software is easy, but onboarding and training staff on how to use it is the real challenge in a non-early-adopter industry.</p>

<p><strong>Customization vs. Scaling:</strong> How the team handles the fact that no two golf courses are alike. Chris Hill explains how they now use natural language programming to quickly customize AI rules for specific course restrictions (e.g., &quot;no seniors after 2 PM on Saturday&quot;).</p>

<p><strong>Dynamic Pricing Deep Dive:</strong> The debate among owners about surge pricing, and how CourseRev.ai integrates instantly with tee sheets to reflect pricing changes.</p>

<p><strong>The Tease:</strong> Chris Hill hints at new dynamic pricing strategies that use unstructured data (like weather and demand factors) in ways humans never could.</p>

<p><strong>Serving Different Course Types:</strong> How the technology adapts to MCOs (Multi-Course Operators) with one clubhouse vs. multiple locations spread across states.</p>

<p><strong>The &quot;Robocall&quot; Fear:</strong> Addressing the misconception that AI phone answering is like the frustrating automated systems of 10 years ago.</p>

<p><strong>AI &amp; Employment:</strong> The team confirms that AI isn&#39;t eliminating jobs; it’s allowing staff to focus on high-value, face-to-face interactions in the pro shop.</p>

<p><strong>Measuring Success:</strong> Using AI to track KPIs, identify frequently asked questions, and help course operators improve their websites and customer service.</p>

<p><strong>Notable Quotes</strong><br>
<strong>Del on the Industry:</strong> &quot;We&#39;re still largely an industry of mom-and-pop operations out there. Change is not real easy for us to overcome, and it can be scary, too.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Chris on Tech Debt:</strong> &quot;With AI, we can actually implement that much easier rather than trying to build something really rigid and structured in code. We can just write that now in natural language.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Matt on Staffing:</strong> &quot;Everyone listening to this has probably been in a situation where you&#39;ve been in the pro shop and the guy&#39;s on two phones. It&#39;s definitely not eliminating staff because then you can even get more face-to-face quality interactions.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Colin on Entrepreneurship:</strong> &quot;If you don&#39;t have challenges as a startup you need to challenge yourself more. Like me with snowboarding, if you&#39;re not falling down you&#39;re not going fast enough.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Resources &amp; Links</strong><br>
Learn more about CourseRev.ai: <a href="https://www.courserev.ai" rel="nofollow">https://www.courserev.ai</a><br>
Email CourseRev: <a href="mailto:hello@courserev.ai" rel="nofollow">hello@courserev.ai</a><br>
Learn more about PITCHcrm: <a href="https://www.pitchcrm.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.pitchcrm.com</a></p>

<p>Want to connect with Del? Check out his <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe" rel="nofollow">bio page</a></strong> to make that happen! &gt;&gt; <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/del-ratcliffe</a></p>

<p><strong>Timestamps</strong><br>
<strong>[00:00] - Cold Open</strong>: Colin introduces the &quot;3x&quot; interview at the 2026 PGA Show<br>
<strong>[01:30] - Guest Introductions:</strong> Del Ratcliffe, Matt Wade, and Chris Hill<br>
<strong>[03:00] - What is CourseRev.ai?</strong> Solving the pro shop phone pressure with an AI concierge<br>
<strong>[04:45] - Del&#39;s Dual Role:</strong> The President of CourseRev.ai as the client (COO of Pinnacle Golf Properties)<br>
<strong>[07:15] - The Tech Stack Explained:</strong> How PITCHcrm integrates with CourseRev.ai for marketing automation<br>
<strong>[09:00] - The Education Gap:</strong> Why golf course owners are laggards in tech adoption and how to warm them up to AI<br>
<strong>[12:00] - Customer Success Story: *<em>The journey from reluctance to evangelism<br>
*</em>[15:30] - Balancing Customization &amp; Scale:</strong> How the team handles the &quot;mom-and-pop&quot; nature of different courses using natural language AI<br>
<strong>[19:15] - The Human Element:</strong> Onboarding staff and using the &quot;Notice Board&quot; for real-time course conditions<br>
<strong>[21:45] - Dynamic Pricing:</strong> Agonizing over surge pricing and how AI uses unstructured data to predict demand<br>
<strong>[24:30] - One Size Doesn&#39;t Fit All:</strong> Differentiating tech needs for MCOs, daily fee, municipal, and private clubs<br>
<strong>[28:00] - Overcoming Misconceptions:</strong> Why this isn&#39;t the frustrating automated attendant of the past<br>
<strong>[30:00] - AI &amp; Jobs:</strong> How automation creates more valuable face-to-face roles in the pro shop<br>
<strong>[31:15] - How to Connect:</strong> Finding CourseRev.ai and PITCHcrm online<br>
<strong>[32:00] - Wrap Up:</strong> Colin teases the &quot;Innovators Spotlight&quot; mini-segments coming up next</p>

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<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

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  <title>Live from The PGA Show 2026:  Beyond Golf Cart GPS and The Data-Driven Golf Revolution / Adam Kanouse with Reach Golfers</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Did you know 65% of public golf courses still don't have GPS on their carts? In this exciting live interview from the PGA Show 2026, host Colin Weston sits down with Adam Kanouse, Co-CEO of Reach Golfers, to uncover the massive untapped market in golf technology. Discover how their golfer-first platform is disrupting the industry with a dual-revenue model, elegant design, and a bold vision to transform the golf cart into a powerful data hub that increases profitability and enhances every round.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this bonus live recording from the bustling floor of the 2026 PGA Show, host Colin Weston sits down with Adam Kanouse, Co-CEO of Reach Golfers. Discover why Colin was instantly drawn to their demo at the NGCOA Conference and learn how Reach Golfers is fundamentally rethinking the golf cart GPS experience. Adam reveals why 65% of public courses are still without this technology, how his company avoids an "adversarial relationship" with golfers, and the dual-revenue model that makes premium tech affordable. Get the inside scoop on their stunning, golfer-first interface, their massive untapped market, and their ambitious data-driven vision for the future of course management and personalized marketing.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/qWrvI4db.jpg
Here are three key takeaways you will discover from this conversation with Adam Kanouse of Reach Golfers:
1. A Massive, Underserved Market Exists Right Now
Contrary to common belief, GPS technology is not ubiquitous. Adam revealed that approximately 65% of public golf courses in the $45-$75 green fee range have no GPS system at all. This represents a significant greenfield opportunity for Reach Golfers, which is focused on bringing modern tech to courses that have never had it, rather than just battling competitors for their existing customers.
2. Philosophy First: It’s About Enhancing the Golfer’s Experience, Not Just Protecting the Cart
While many in-cart systems began with a primary goal of fleet management and asset protection (which can create friction with golfers), Reach Golfers flips the model. Their “secret sauce” is a golfer-first philosophy—building a beautiful, interactive, and helpful experience that also solves operational problems. This creates a more positive relationship between the course and the player.
3. The Future is a Data Platform, Not Just a GPS
Reach Golfers views its device as a “computer on a cart” with potential far beyond yardages. The next frontier is harnessing on-course behavioral data - like pace-of-play patterns, common traffic areas, and player tendencies - to help courses with dynamic pricing, targeted marketing (e.g., offering lessons to high-handicappers), agronomy decisions, and overall operational efficiency. They are building the foundation for a deeply integrated, data-driven golf experience.
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Adam on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY) live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on this link (https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY) or the image below as Colin and Adam extend their podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/hDbH-R5B.jpg (https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY) 
Key Quotes from Adam Kanouse
On Philosophy: "What differentiates us is we're not trying to protect the golf cart. Our competition all started protecting the golf cart creating a bit of an adversarial relationship with the golfer. We don't think that's necessary."
On the Market: "We called every golf course that was public in 42 of the 50 states this summer. 65% of courses in that $45 to $75 green fee range don't have anything. It's an open market."
*On Product Design: *"We have a huge advantage. We can step in with modern technology, modern design and see what worked and what didn't and only work on the things that people really want and need."
On the Future: "My co-CEO likes to say that this is not a GPS device. This is a computer on a cart. The future is being able to identify the person who's on the course and be able to market to them with things that they care about."
Want to connect with Adam? Check out his bio page (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse) to make that happen! &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse
Key Topics &amp;amp; Timestamps
[00:00 - 02:30] Introduction &amp;amp; First Impressions
[02:30 - 06:00] What is Reach Golfers? The Core Differentiator
[06:00 - 09:30] The Demo &amp;amp; Revenue Model
[09:30 - 14:00] The Massive Untapped Market &amp;amp; Growth Strategy
[14:00 - 18:00] Product Philosophy &amp;amp; The Data-Driven Future
[18:00 - 20:30] 2026: The Growth Year
[20:30 - 22:00] PGA Show Magic &amp;amp; How to Connect
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus live recording from the bustling floor of the 2026 PGA Show, host Colin Weston sits down with Adam Kanouse, Co-CEO of Reach Golfers. Discover why Colin was instantly drawn to their demo at the NGCOA Conference and learn how Reach Golfers is fundamentally rethinking the golf cart GPS experience. Adam reveals why 65% of public courses are still without this technology, how his company avoids an &quot;adversarial relationship&quot; with golfers, and the dual-revenue model that makes premium tech affordable. Get the inside scoop on their stunning, golfer-first interface, their massive untapped market, and their ambitious data-driven vision for the future of course management and personalized marketing.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/qWrvI4db.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Here are three key takeaways you will discover from this conversation with Adam Kanouse of Reach Golfers:</strong><br>
<strong>1. A Massive, Underserved Market Exists Right Now</strong><br>
Contrary to common belief, GPS technology is not ubiquitous. Adam revealed that approximately 65% of public golf courses in the $45-$75 green fee range have no GPS system at all. This represents a significant greenfield opportunity for Reach Golfers, which is focused on bringing modern tech to courses that have never had it, rather than just battling competitors for their existing customers.</p>

<p><strong>2. Philosophy First: It’s About Enhancing the Golfer’s Experience, Not Just Protecting the Cart</strong><br>
While many in-cart systems began with a primary goal of fleet management and asset protection (which can create friction with golfers), Reach Golfers flips the model. Their “secret sauce” is a golfer-first philosophy—building a beautiful, interactive, and helpful experience that also solves operational problems. This creates a more positive relationship between the course and the player.</p>

<p><strong>3. The Future is a Data Platform, Not Just a GPS</strong><br>
Reach Golfers views its device as a “computer on a cart” with potential far beyond yardages. The next frontier is harnessing on-course behavioral data - like pace-of-play patterns, common traffic areas, and player tendencies - to help courses with dynamic pricing, targeted marketing (e.g., offering lessons to high-handicappers), agronomy decisions, and overall operational efficiency. They are building the foundation for a deeply integrated, data-driven golf experience.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Adam on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as Colin and Adam extend their podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/hDbH-R5B.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Key Quotes from Adam Kanouse</strong><br>
<strong>On Philosophy:</strong> &quot;What differentiates us is we&#39;re not trying to protect the golf cart. Our competition all started protecting the golf cart creating a bit of an adversarial relationship with the golfer. We don&#39;t think that&#39;s necessary.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Market:</strong> &quot;We called every golf course that was public in 42 of the 50 states this summer. 65% of courses in that $45 to $75 green fee range don&#39;t have anything. It&#39;s an open market.&quot;</p>

<p>*<em>On Product Design: *</em>&quot;We have a huge advantage. We can step in with modern technology, modern design and see what worked and what didn&#39;t and only work on the things that people really want and need.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Future:</strong> &quot;My co-CEO likes to say that this is not a GPS device. This is a computer on a cart. The future is being able to identify the person who&#39;s on the course and be able to market to them with things that they care about.&quot;</p>

<p>Want to connect with Adam? Check out his <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse" rel="nofollow">bio page</a></strong> to make that happen! &gt;&gt; <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse</a></p>

<p>Key Topics &amp; Timestamps<br>
[00:00 - 02:30] Introduction &amp; First Impressions<br>
[02:30 - 06:00] What is Reach Golfers? The Core Differentiator<br>
[06:00 - 09:30] The Demo &amp; Revenue Model<br>
[09:30 - 14:00] The Massive Untapped Market &amp; Growth Strategy<br>
[14:00 - 18:00] Product Philosophy &amp; The Data-Driven Future<br>
[18:00 - 20:30] 2026: The Growth Year<br>
[20:30 - 22:00] PGA Show Magic &amp; How to Connect</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus live recording from the bustling floor of the 2026 PGA Show, host Colin Weston sits down with Adam Kanouse, Co-CEO of Reach Golfers. Discover why Colin was instantly drawn to their demo at the NGCOA Conference and learn how Reach Golfers is fundamentally rethinking the golf cart GPS experience. Adam reveals why 65% of public courses are still without this technology, how his company avoids an &quot;adversarial relationship&quot; with golfers, and the dual-revenue model that makes premium tech affordable. Get the inside scoop on their stunning, golfer-first interface, their massive untapped market, and their ambitious data-driven vision for the future of course management and personalized marketing.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/qWrvI4db.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Here are three key takeaways you will discover from this conversation with Adam Kanouse of Reach Golfers:</strong><br>
<strong>1. A Massive, Underserved Market Exists Right Now</strong><br>
Contrary to common belief, GPS technology is not ubiquitous. Adam revealed that approximately 65% of public golf courses in the $45-$75 green fee range have no GPS system at all. This represents a significant greenfield opportunity for Reach Golfers, which is focused on bringing modern tech to courses that have never had it, rather than just battling competitors for their existing customers.</p>

<p><strong>2. Philosophy First: It’s About Enhancing the Golfer’s Experience, Not Just Protecting the Cart</strong><br>
While many in-cart systems began with a primary goal of fleet management and asset protection (which can create friction with golfers), Reach Golfers flips the model. Their “secret sauce” is a golfer-first philosophy—building a beautiful, interactive, and helpful experience that also solves operational problems. This creates a more positive relationship between the course and the player.</p>

<p><strong>3. The Future is a Data Platform, Not Just a GPS</strong><br>
Reach Golfers views its device as a “computer on a cart” with potential far beyond yardages. The next frontier is harnessing on-course behavioral data - like pace-of-play patterns, common traffic areas, and player tendencies - to help courses with dynamic pricing, targeted marketing (e.g., offering lessons to high-handicappers), agronomy decisions, and overall operational efficiency. They are building the foundation for a deeply integrated, data-driven golf experience.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Adam on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as Colin and Adam extend their podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/N1jYPan_CmY" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/hDbH-R5B.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Key Quotes from Adam Kanouse</strong><br>
<strong>On Philosophy:</strong> &quot;What differentiates us is we&#39;re not trying to protect the golf cart. Our competition all started protecting the golf cart creating a bit of an adversarial relationship with the golfer. We don&#39;t think that&#39;s necessary.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Market:</strong> &quot;We called every golf course that was public in 42 of the 50 states this summer. 65% of courses in that $45 to $75 green fee range don&#39;t have anything. It&#39;s an open market.&quot;</p>

<p>*<em>On Product Design: *</em>&quot;We have a huge advantage. We can step in with modern technology, modern design and see what worked and what didn&#39;t and only work on the things that people really want and need.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Future:</strong> &quot;My co-CEO likes to say that this is not a GPS device. This is a computer on a cart. The future is being able to identify the person who&#39;s on the course and be able to market to them with things that they care about.&quot;</p>

<p>Want to connect with Adam? Check out his <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse" rel="nofollow">bio page</a></strong> to make that happen! &gt;&gt; <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/adam-kanouse</a></p>

<p>Key Topics &amp; Timestamps<br>
[00:00 - 02:30] Introduction &amp; First Impressions<br>
[02:30 - 06:00] What is Reach Golfers? The Core Differentiator<br>
[06:00 - 09:30] The Demo &amp; Revenue Model<br>
[09:30 - 14:00] The Massive Untapped Market &amp; Growth Strategy<br>
[14:00 - 18:00] Product Philosophy &amp; The Data-Driven Future<br>
[18:00 - 20:30] 2026: The Growth Year<br>
[20:30 - 22:00] PGA Show Magic &amp; How to Connect</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>]]>
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  <title>Live from the PGA Show 2026: SmashSwing’s Multiplayer Golf Revolution with TJ Schier Jr.</title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2026 20:45:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>The ModGolf Podcast</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Colin Weston attended The 2026 PGA Show where he broadcasted live from the Media Stage three engaging conversations with a diverse group of golf entrepreneurs while in Orlando. First up TJ Schier, Founder of SmashSwing Immersive.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this special live edition from The 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston kicks off the show with an in-depth conversation with TJ Schier Jr., Founder &amp;amp; CEO of SmashSwing Immersive. They dive into the evolution of TJ's groundbreaking multiplayer simulator system, the power of customer feedback, strategic partnerships with iconic brands like Atari, and the vision to redefine the indoor golf entertainment experience. Recorded amid the energy of the world's largest golf trade show, this episode is packed with entrepreneurial insights, industry trends, and a glimpse into the future of social golf.
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Here are three key takeaways you will discover from this conversation with TJ Schier:
1. The Future of Indoor Golf is Multiplayer &amp;amp; Social
The traditional "one player hits, everyone else watches" simulator model is being disrupted. SmashSwing’s core innovation is simultaneous, side-by-side play for 2-24 people, transforming golf into a fast-paced, shared experience. This model reduces the intimidation for beginners, speeds up play, and creates a dynamic, energetic atmosphere more akin to a sports bar or entertainment venue than a solitary practice session.
2. True Innovation is Often a "Kit of Parts," Not a Single Invention
A key entrepreneurial lesson from TJ's journey is that groundbreaking ideas don't always require inventing something entirely new. SmashSwing’s success lies in its unique combination of proven technologies—auto-tee systems, large-format screens, multiplayer gaming software—and wrapping it in a layer of licensed entertainment IP (like Atari games). This strategy of synthesizing existing concepts from different industries (golf, arcades, cinema) to solve a new problem is a powerful blueprint for innovation.
3. Listen to the Market, But Filter with a Strong Vision
While TJ actively sought feedback from hundreds of potential customers, he emphasizes the critical skill of filtering out distracting "noise." Early on, many suggested he expand into soccer, hockey, or movie theaters. By staying true to the focused vision of "revolutionizing indoor golf," he was able to refine a product that genuinely serves that market's needs. The lesson: customer input is invaluable for polishing your product, but a clear, unwavering core vision is essential to avoid chasing every opportunity and losing focus.
Final Takeaway: The multiplayer format reduces intimidation for new golfers, as spectators watch the engaging screen action, not the player's swing mechanics.
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with TJ on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA) live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on this link (https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA) or the image below as Colin and TJ extend their podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned that will benefit all entrepreneurs.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/iNbsI2Eq.jpg (https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA) 
Prior to launching SmashSwing, TJ helped ignite the growth of BigShots Golf as part of ClubCorp/Invited to be the second largest player in the golf entertainment space. The brand grew from 1 to 7 units in 20 months with a mix of corporate owned, managed and franchised locations.
Want to connect with TJ? Check out his bio page (https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier) to make that happen! &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier
Episode Chapters
00:00 - 01:30 | Live from the PGA Show Hallway
Host Colin Weston kicks off the show amid the bustling energy of the 2026 PGA Show, introducing the first guest, TJ Schier Jr. of SmashSwing.
01:30 - 04:15 | Introducing the Multiplayer Golf Experience
TJ gives an overview of SmashSwing: a large-format, multiplayer simulator that allows 2-24 players to hit simultaneously, blending competitive entertainment games with traditional driving range functionality.
04:15 - 06:45 | The Build: From Prototype to Show-Stopping Booth
TJ shares the rapid progress of the last eight months, a humorous story about a logistical mishap with lost keys, and the exhilarating moment attendees realized his booth was fundamentally different from other simulators.
06:45 - 09:00 | The Vision: Speed, Scrambles &amp;amp; Cinematic Screens
A look at the upcoming roadmap, including features that will let foursomes play a virtual scramble in 30 minutes and the vision for massive indoor "cinematic" driving ranges.
09:00 - 12:00 | Games &amp;amp; Partnerships: From Atari to Future IP
Discussion of the strategic licensing deal with Atari (Asteroids, Space Invaders) to attract a wider audience and the long-term goal of securing major entertainment IP (e.g., Star Wars) to bring new players to golf.
12:00 - 15:00 | Filtering Feedback &amp;amp; The Indoor Golf Alliance
TJ explains the entrepreneurial challenge of listening to customer feedback while staying true to a focused vision for golf. He also introduces the Indoor Golf Alliance, a collective sharing best practices for operators.
15:00 - 18:30 | Defining the Customer: Country Clubs &amp;amp; Driving Ranges
A revelation about the target market: country clubs are key early adopters, using the system for revenue-generating events. Other customers include public courses and venues building large-scale indoor ranges.
18:30 - 22:00 | Advice for Entrepreneurs: Pitch, Listen, &amp;amp; Combine
TJ's key advice for founders: master the art of clearly explaining your difference, listen to customer problems before pitching solutions, and understand that innovation often comes from creatively combining existing ideas.
22:00 - 24:30 | Creating a "Blue Ocean" &amp;amp; Reducing Intimidation
Colin frames SmashSwing as a Blue Ocean Strategy, creating a new market. TJ highlights how multiplayer play shifts spectator focus to the screen, making golf less intimidating for beginners.
24:30 - 26:00 | How to Connect &amp;amp; Closing
Where to find SmashSwing at the PGA Show (Booth 1213) and how to connect online. Colin wraps up the conversation.
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf) Special Guest: TJ Schier - CEO/Founder at SmashSwing Immersive.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this special live edition from The 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston kicks off the show with an in-depth conversation with TJ Schier Jr., Founder &amp; CEO of SmashSwing Immersive. They dive into the evolution of TJ&#39;s groundbreaking multiplayer simulator system, the power of customer feedback, strategic partnerships with iconic brands like Atari, and the vision to redefine the indoor golf entertainment experience. Recorded amid the energy of the world&#39;s largest golf trade show, this episode is packed with entrepreneurial insights, industry trends, and a glimpse into the future of social golf.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/PFN-tvwy.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Here are three key takeaways you will discover from this conversation with TJ Schier:</strong><br>
<strong>1. The Future of Indoor Golf is Multiplayer &amp; Social</strong><br>
The traditional &quot;one player hits, everyone else watches&quot; simulator model is being disrupted. SmashSwing’s core innovation is simultaneous, side-by-side play for 2-24 people, transforming golf into a fast-paced, shared experience. This model reduces the intimidation for beginners, speeds up play, and creates a dynamic, energetic atmosphere more akin to a sports bar or entertainment venue than a solitary practice session.</p>

<p><strong>2. True Innovation is Often a &quot;Kit of Parts,&quot; Not a Single Invention</strong><br>
A key entrepreneurial lesson from TJ&#39;s journey is that groundbreaking ideas don&#39;t always require inventing something entirely new. SmashSwing’s success lies in its unique combination of proven technologies—auto-tee systems, large-format screens, multiplayer gaming software—and wrapping it in a layer of licensed entertainment IP (like Atari games). This strategy of synthesizing existing concepts from different industries (golf, arcades, cinema) to solve a new problem is a powerful blueprint for innovation.</p>

<p><strong>3. Listen to the Market, But Filter with a Strong Vision</strong><br>
While TJ actively sought feedback from hundreds of potential customers, he emphasizes the critical skill of filtering out distracting &quot;noise.&quot; Early on, many suggested he expand into soccer, hockey, or movie theaters. By staying true to the focused vision of &quot;revolutionizing indoor golf,&quot; he was able to refine a product that genuinely serves that market&#39;s needs. The lesson: customer input is invaluable for polishing your product, but a clear, unwavering core vision is essential to avoid chasing every opportunity and losing focus.</p>

<p><strong>Final Takeaway:</strong> The multiplayer format reduces intimidation for new golfers, as spectators watch the engaging screen action, not the player&#39;s swing mechanics.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with TJ on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as Colin and TJ extend their podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned that will benefit all entrepreneurs.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/iNbsI2Eq.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p>Prior to launching SmashSwing, TJ helped ignite the growth of BigShots Golf as part of ClubCorp/Invited to be the second largest player in the golf entertainment space. The brand grew from 1 to 7 units in 20 months with a mix of corporate owned, managed and franchised locations.</p>

<p>Want to connect with TJ? Check out his <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier" rel="nofollow">bio page</a></strong> to make that happen! &gt;&gt; <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier</a></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters</strong><br>
<strong>00:00 - 01:30 | Live from the PGA Show Hallway</strong><br>
Host Colin Weston kicks off the show amid the bustling energy of the 2026 PGA Show, introducing the first guest, TJ Schier Jr. of SmashSwing.</p>

<p><strong>01:30 - 04:15 | Introducing the Multiplayer Golf Experience</strong><br>
TJ gives an overview of SmashSwing: a large-format, multiplayer simulator that allows 2-24 players to hit simultaneously, blending competitive entertainment games with traditional driving range functionality.</p>

<p><strong>04:15 - 06:45 | The Build: From Prototype to Show-Stopping Booth</strong><br>
TJ shares the rapid progress of the last eight months, a humorous story about a logistical mishap with lost keys, and the exhilarating moment attendees realized his booth was fundamentally different from other simulators.</p>

<p><strong>06:45 - 09:00 | The Vision: Speed, Scrambles &amp; Cinematic Screens</strong><br>
A look at the upcoming roadmap, including features that will let foursomes play a virtual scramble in 30 minutes and the vision for massive indoor &quot;cinematic&quot; driving ranges.</p>

<p><strong>09:00 - 12:00 | Games &amp; Partnerships: From Atari to Future IP</strong><br>
Discussion of the strategic licensing deal with Atari (Asteroids, Space Invaders) to attract a wider audience and the long-term goal of securing major entertainment IP (e.g., Star Wars) to bring new players to golf.</p>

<p><strong>12:00 - 15:00 | Filtering Feedback &amp; The Indoor Golf Alliance</strong><br>
TJ explains the entrepreneurial challenge of listening to customer feedback while staying true to a focused vision for golf. He also introduces the Indoor Golf Alliance, a collective sharing best practices for operators.</p>

<p><strong>15:00 - 18:30 | Defining the Customer: Country Clubs &amp; Driving Ranges</strong><br>
A revelation about the target market: country clubs are key early adopters, using the system for revenue-generating events. Other customers include public courses and venues building large-scale indoor ranges.</p>

<p><strong>18:30 - 22:00 | Advice for Entrepreneurs: Pitch, Listen, &amp; Combine</strong><br>
TJ&#39;s key advice for founders: master the art of clearly explaining your difference, listen to customer problems before pitching solutions, and understand that innovation often comes from creatively combining existing ideas.</p>

<p><strong>22:00 - 24:30 | Creating a &quot;Blue Ocean&quot; &amp; Reducing Intimidation</strong><br>
Colin frames SmashSwing as a Blue Ocean Strategy, creating a new market. TJ highlights how multiplayer play shifts spectator focus to the screen, making golf less intimidating for beginners.</p>

<p><strong>24:30 - 26:00 | How to Connect &amp; Closing</strong><br>
Where to find SmashSwing at the PGA Show (Booth 1213) and how to connect online. Colin wraps up the conversation.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: TJ Schier - CEO/Founder at SmashSwing Immersive.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this special live edition from The 2026 PGA Show in Orlando, host Colin Weston kicks off the show with an in-depth conversation with TJ Schier Jr., Founder &amp; CEO of SmashSwing Immersive. They dive into the evolution of TJ&#39;s groundbreaking multiplayer simulator system, the power of customer feedback, strategic partnerships with iconic brands like Atari, and the vision to redefine the indoor golf entertainment experience. Recorded amid the energy of the world&#39;s largest golf trade show, this episode is packed with entrepreneurial insights, industry trends, and a glimpse into the future of social golf.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/PFN-tvwy.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Here are three key takeaways you will discover from this conversation with TJ Schier:</strong><br>
<strong>1. The Future of Indoor Golf is Multiplayer &amp; Social</strong><br>
The traditional &quot;one player hits, everyone else watches&quot; simulator model is being disrupted. SmashSwing’s core innovation is simultaneous, side-by-side play for 2-24 people, transforming golf into a fast-paced, shared experience. This model reduces the intimidation for beginners, speeds up play, and creates a dynamic, energetic atmosphere more akin to a sports bar or entertainment venue than a solitary practice session.</p>

<p><strong>2. True Innovation is Often a &quot;Kit of Parts,&quot; Not a Single Invention</strong><br>
A key entrepreneurial lesson from TJ&#39;s journey is that groundbreaking ideas don&#39;t always require inventing something entirely new. SmashSwing’s success lies in its unique combination of proven technologies—auto-tee systems, large-format screens, multiplayer gaming software—and wrapping it in a layer of licensed entertainment IP (like Atari games). This strategy of synthesizing existing concepts from different industries (golf, arcades, cinema) to solve a new problem is a powerful blueprint for innovation.</p>

<p><strong>3. Listen to the Market, But Filter with a Strong Vision</strong><br>
While TJ actively sought feedback from hundreds of potential customers, he emphasizes the critical skill of filtering out distracting &quot;noise.&quot; Early on, many suggested he expand into soccer, hockey, or movie theaters. By staying true to the focused vision of &quot;revolutionizing indoor golf,&quot; he was able to refine a product that genuinely serves that market&#39;s needs. The lesson: customer input is invaluable for polishing your product, but a clear, unwavering core vision is essential to avoid chasing every opportunity and losing focus.</p>

<p><strong>Final Takeaway:</strong> The multiplayer format reduces intimidation for new golfers, as spectators watch the engaging screen action, not the player&#39;s swing mechanics.</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with TJ on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong> live from The 2026 PGA Show. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below as Colin and TJ extend their podcast conversation with key takeaways and lessons learned that will benefit all entrepreneurs.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7yrbGd4xYyA" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/iNbsI2Eq.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p>Prior to launching SmashSwing, TJ helped ignite the growth of BigShots Golf as part of ClubCorp/Invited to be the second largest player in the golf entertainment space. The brand grew from 1 to 7 units in 20 months with a mix of corporate owned, managed and franchised locations.</p>

<p>Want to connect with TJ? Check out his <strong><a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier" rel="nofollow">bio page</a></strong> to make that happen! &gt;&gt; <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/tj-schier</a></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters</strong><br>
<strong>00:00 - 01:30 | Live from the PGA Show Hallway</strong><br>
Host Colin Weston kicks off the show amid the bustling energy of the 2026 PGA Show, introducing the first guest, TJ Schier Jr. of SmashSwing.</p>

<p><strong>01:30 - 04:15 | Introducing the Multiplayer Golf Experience</strong><br>
TJ gives an overview of SmashSwing: a large-format, multiplayer simulator that allows 2-24 players to hit simultaneously, blending competitive entertainment games with traditional driving range functionality.</p>

<p><strong>04:15 - 06:45 | The Build: From Prototype to Show-Stopping Booth</strong><br>
TJ shares the rapid progress of the last eight months, a humorous story about a logistical mishap with lost keys, and the exhilarating moment attendees realized his booth was fundamentally different from other simulators.</p>

<p><strong>06:45 - 09:00 | The Vision: Speed, Scrambles &amp; Cinematic Screens</strong><br>
A look at the upcoming roadmap, including features that will let foursomes play a virtual scramble in 30 minutes and the vision for massive indoor &quot;cinematic&quot; driving ranges.</p>

<p><strong>09:00 - 12:00 | Games &amp; Partnerships: From Atari to Future IP</strong><br>
Discussion of the strategic licensing deal with Atari (Asteroids, Space Invaders) to attract a wider audience and the long-term goal of securing major entertainment IP (e.g., Star Wars) to bring new players to golf.</p>

<p><strong>12:00 - 15:00 | Filtering Feedback &amp; The Indoor Golf Alliance</strong><br>
TJ explains the entrepreneurial challenge of listening to customer feedback while staying true to a focused vision for golf. He also introduces the Indoor Golf Alliance, a collective sharing best practices for operators.</p>

<p><strong>15:00 - 18:30 | Defining the Customer: Country Clubs &amp; Driving Ranges</strong><br>
A revelation about the target market: country clubs are key early adopters, using the system for revenue-generating events. Other customers include public courses and venues building large-scale indoor ranges.</p>

<p><strong>18:30 - 22:00 | Advice for Entrepreneurs: Pitch, Listen, &amp; Combine</strong><br>
TJ&#39;s key advice for founders: master the art of clearly explaining your difference, listen to customer problems before pitching solutions, and understand that innovation often comes from creatively combining existing ideas.</p>

<p><strong>22:00 - 24:30 | Creating a &quot;Blue Ocean&quot; &amp; Reducing Intimidation</strong><br>
Colin frames SmashSwing as a Blue Ocean Strategy, creating a new market. TJ highlights how multiplayer play shifts spectator focus to the screen, making golf less intimidating for beginners.</p>

<p><strong>24:30 - 26:00 | How to Connect &amp; Closing</strong><br>
Where to find SmashSwing at the PGA Show (Booth 1213) and how to connect online. Colin wraps up the conversation.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: TJ Schier - CEO/Founder at SmashSwing Immersive.</p>]]>
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  <title>Beyond The Grid: Creating Legacy Through Long Drive - Phillis Meti, World Long Drive Champion</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 13:45:00 -0800</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What does it truly mean to win at the highest level? For World #3 Long Drive competitor Phillis Meti, victory is measured not just by the bombs she hits past 380 yards, but by the pathways she builds for those who follow. In this powerful episode, we go beyond the grid to explore how a career forged in speed and competition has evolved into a mission of mentorship and legacy. Phillis shares her incredible journey from New Zealand to the world stage, revealing the mindset shifts for longevity, the entrepreneurial ventures that fuel her, and her heartfelt mission to "pull others up" by creating educational opportunities for the next generation of student-athletes.

Discover the untold story of a champion who uses her platform to kick down doors so others can walk through. Listen for invaluable insights on golf performance, athletic mindset, sports business, and the profound impact of creating a legacy that lifts everyone higher.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>42:27</itunes:duration>
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  <description>What does it take to not only reach the pinnacle of a sport like World Long Drive but to sustain a nearly two-decade career at its peak? In this engaging episode we go far beyond the grid and the spectacle of 380-yard bombs to uncover the heart, wisdom, and entrepreneurial spirit of a true icon. Host Colin Weston sits down with the remarkable Phillis Meti - ranked #3 in the world and 5 time World Champ - to explore her incredible journey from picking up her father’s shanked golf balls in New Zealand to becoming a global golf ambassador.
Phillis opens up about the fierce mentality required to compete, the pivotal lessons learned from both victory and heartbreaking defeat, and her visionary mission to pave pathways for the next generation. This conversation is a masterclass in longevity, adaptability, and giving back. Whether you're fascinated by the physics of speed, the business of golf, or stories of profound resilience, Phillis’s insights will leave you inspired and ready to “kick the door down” for your own ambitions. Get ready for an episode packed with power, purpose, and unforgettable stories.
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Key takeaways in this episode with Phillis that you will discover:
Longevity is Built on Wisdom and Adaptability:
Success isn't just about raw speed. Phillis credits her sustained career to evolving from a "fearless" hitter into a savvier technical player, learning to adapt her ball flight to different grids, and prioritizing recovery and intelligent strength training.
True Power Starts with Your Hands:
A crucial technical insight for anyone wanting more speed: your hands hold the club, so their movement is paramount. Phillis emphasizes that generating speed is a sequencing chain, where proper hip movement ultimately serves to allow the hands to move faster through the hitting zone.
Create Pathways So Others Can Follow:
Phillis’s vision extends far beyond competition. Inspired by her parents, she is actively working to build an indigenous school and recruitment pipeline to help student-athletes from New Zealand and Polynesia transition to U.S. colleges, ensuring they have the support to succeed. Her mission is to show what’s possible and pull others up with her.
Episode Chapters:
(00:01 - 01:25) Introduction: Welcoming World Long Drive Phenom Phillis Meti
(01:25 - 03:15) From Rugby to Golf: Phillis’s First Swing and Family Influence
(03:15 - 06:26) A Multi-Sport Childhood: The Circuitous Path to Long Drive
(06:26 - 08:42) Anatomy of a Competition: How World Long Drive Works
(08:42 - 13:45) The Speed Equation: Training, Technique, and Swinging 125 MPH
(13:45 - 17:13) Wisdom Over Fear: The Evolution of a Champion's Mindset
(17:13 - 19:25) The Key to Longevity: Spinal Hygiene and Injury Prevention
(19:25 - 24:35) The 2025 Season Arc: Global Competition and New Formats
(24:35 - 27:59) Inside the Bag: The Tech &amp;amp; Specs of a Long Drive Driver
(27:59 - 31:14) The State of the Game: Community, Competition, and Commerce
(31:14 - 38:31) Entrepreneurial Drive: Building a School and Creating Pathways Home
(38:31 - 42:43) A Vision for the Future: Bringing Long Drive to the Masses &amp;amp; Closing Thoughts
Quotable Moments from Phillis:
On Perspective and Growth:
"Winning my first championship in 2006 and coming second twice after, I completely lost focus. I got caught up in the hype. Between then and now, I am a better game player with a bit more wisdom. I play the game differently now."
On Equipment and Control:
"The one thing about the women is that we don't swing it fast enough to afford using lofts lower than a seven-degree head. I have one of the fastest club head speeds, but I use one of the highest lofts on the tour."
On Legacy and Lifting Others:
"When you're on your way up, always try to look back and pull others up with you. So if people want to keep going further than you, at least they have your shoulders to stand on. Why not be me to kick down that door? I've got a big foot!"
Phillis Meti's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/phillis-meti
Phillis Meti is a multi-time World Long Drive Champion, currently ranked #3 globally, whose career embodies power, resilience, and purpose. Hailing from New Zealand, her journey began at age seven, wielding a club to pick up her father’s errant golf balls. A gifted multi-sport athlete, she excelled in netball and discus before a flyer for a local long drive qualifier at age 18 changed her trajectory. Demonstrating breathtaking natural power, she not only qualified but went on to win the World Long Drive Championship in her very first attempt in 2006. Nearly two decades later, Phillis remains a dominant force, combining 125 MPH clubhead speed with hard-earned wisdom to outthink and outlast the competition on grids across the globe.
Colin and Phillis were part of Team AM Golf at The Vegas Baby ProAm Invitational in Las Vegas, where they shot lots of video including this YouTube Short as part of Colin's Positivity Project:
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/H4Xa8VDs.jpg (https://youtube.com/shorts/_WDI9IYTkCA?si=oIX7kGfvY8nbWuYu) 
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf)
We want to thank our partner British Columbia Golf for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RUnDKdBN.png (https://britishcolumbiagolf.org)
When I mentioned Phillis' episode to the folks at British Columbia Golf they immediately wanted to support it, as one of their goals is to create a sport that is accessible and inclusive. They strive to create a golf environment that is respectful of participant's personal goals and is free from all forms of maltreatment. British Columbia Golf supports women golfers and players of all ages and abilities, while continually working to increase participation in the sport with programs such as the Cloud Series.
British Columbia Golf is the Provincial Sport Organization for golf as recognized by the Government of British Columbia and ViaSport. Golf Canada recognizes the association as the governing body within the province. British Columbia Golf provides programs benefitting golfers and the golf industry in the province. Check out their website https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/ Special Guest: Phillis Meti: World Long Drive Champion, Entrepreneur, and Legacy Builder.
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    <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to not only reach the pinnacle of a sport like World Long Drive but to sustain a nearly two-decade career at its peak? In this engaging episode we go far beyond the grid and the spectacle of 380-yard bombs to uncover the heart, wisdom, and entrepreneurial spirit of a true icon. Host Colin Weston sits down with the remarkable Phillis Meti - ranked #3 in the world and 5 time World Champ - to explore her incredible journey from picking up her father’s shanked golf balls in New Zealand to becoming a global golf ambassador.</p>

<p>Phillis opens up about the fierce mentality required to compete, the pivotal lessons learned from both victory and heartbreaking defeat, and her visionary mission to pave pathways for the next generation. This conversation is a masterclass in longevity, adaptability, and giving back. Whether you&#39;re fascinated by the physics of speed, the business of golf, or stories of profound resilience, Phillis’s insights will leave you inspired and ready to “kick the door down” for your own ambitions. Get ready for an episode packed with power, purpose, and unforgettable stories.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/cTlwO047.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways in this episode with Phillis that you will discover:</strong><br>
<strong>Longevity is Built on Wisdom and Adaptability:</strong><br>
Success isn&#39;t just about raw speed. Phillis credits her sustained career to evolving from a &quot;fearless&quot; hitter into a savvier technical player, learning to adapt her ball flight to different grids, and prioritizing recovery and intelligent strength training.</p>

<p><strong>True Power Starts with Your Hands:</strong><br>
A crucial technical insight for anyone wanting more speed: your hands hold the club, so their movement is paramount. Phillis emphasizes that generating speed is a sequencing chain, where proper hip movement ultimately serves to allow the hands to move faster through the hitting zone.</p>

<p><strong>Create Pathways So Others Can Follow:</strong><br>
Phillis’s vision extends far beyond competition. Inspired by her parents, she is actively working to build an indigenous school and recruitment pipeline to help student-athletes from New Zealand and Polynesia transition to U.S. colleges, ensuring they have the support to succeed. Her mission is to show what’s possible and pull others up with her.</p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:01 - 01:25) Introduction: Welcoming World Long Drive Phenom Phillis Meti<br>
(01:25 - 03:15) From Rugby to Golf: Phillis’s First Swing and Family Influence<br>
(03:15 - 06:26) A Multi-Sport Childhood: The Circuitous Path to Long Drive<br>
(06:26 - 08:42) Anatomy of a Competition: How World Long Drive Works<br>
(08:42 - 13:45) The Speed Equation: Training, Technique, and Swinging 125 MPH<br>
(13:45 - 17:13) Wisdom Over Fear: The Evolution of a Champion&#39;s Mindset<br>
(17:13 - 19:25) The Key to Longevity: Spinal Hygiene and Injury Prevention<br>
(19:25 - 24:35) The 2025 Season Arc: Global Competition and New Formats<br>
(24:35 - 27:59) Inside the Bag: The Tech &amp; Specs of a Long Drive Driver<br>
(27:59 - 31:14) The State of the Game: Community, Competition, and Commerce<br>
(31:14 - 38:31) Entrepreneurial Drive: Building a School and Creating Pathways Home<br>
(38:31 - 42:43) A Vision for the Future: Bringing Long Drive to the Masses &amp; Closing Thoughts</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Phillis:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On Perspective and Growth:</strong><br>
&quot;Winning my first championship in 2006 and coming second twice after, I completely lost focus. I got caught up in the hype. Between then and now, I am a better game player with a bit more wisdom. I play the game differently now.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Equipment and Control:</strong><br>
&quot;The one thing about the women is that we don&#39;t swing it fast enough to afford using lofts lower than a seven-degree head. I have one of the fastest club head speeds, but I use one of the highest lofts on the tour.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Legacy and Lifting Others:</strong><br>
&quot;When you&#39;re on your way up, always try to look back and pull others up with you. So if people want to keep going further than you, at least they have your shoulders to stand on. Why not be me to kick down that door? I&#39;ve got a big foot!&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Phillis Meti&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/phillis-meti" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/phillis-meti</a><br>
Phillis Meti is a multi-time World Long Drive Champion, currently ranked #3 globally, whose career embodies power, resilience, and purpose. Hailing from New Zealand, her journey began at age seven, wielding a club to pick up her father’s errant golf balls. A gifted multi-sport athlete, she excelled in netball and discus before a flyer for a local long drive qualifier at age 18 changed her trajectory. Demonstrating breathtaking natural power, she not only qualified but went on to win the World Long Drive Championship in her very first attempt in 2006. Nearly two decades later, Phillis remains a dominant force, combining 125 MPH clubhead speed with hard-earned wisdom to outthink and outlast the competition on grids across the globe.</p>

<p>Colin and Phillis were part of Team AM Golf at The Vegas Baby ProAm Invitational in Las Vegas, where they shot lots of video including this YouTube Short as part of Colin&#39;s Positivity Project:<br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/_WDI9IYTkCA?si=oIX7kGfvY8nbWuYu" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/H4Xa8VDs.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank our partner <strong>British Columbia Golf</strong> for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!<br>
<a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RUnDKdBN.png" alt=""></a></p>

<p>When I mentioned Phillis&#39; episode to the folks at British Columbia Golf they immediately wanted to support it, as one of their goals is to create a sport that is accessible and inclusive. They strive to create a golf environment that is respectful of participant&#39;s personal goals and is free from all forms of maltreatment. British Columbia Golf supports women golfers and players of all ages and abilities, while continually working to increase participation in the sport with programs such as the Cloud Series.</p>

<p>British Columbia Golf is the Provincial Sport Organization for golf as recognized by the Government of British Columbia and ViaSport. Golf Canada recognizes the association as the governing body within the province. British Columbia Golf provides programs benefitting golfers and the golf industry in the province. Check out their website <a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/" rel="nofollow">https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Phillis Meti: World Long Drive Champion, Entrepreneur, and Legacy Builder.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to not only reach the pinnacle of a sport like World Long Drive but to sustain a nearly two-decade career at its peak? In this engaging episode we go far beyond the grid and the spectacle of 380-yard bombs to uncover the heart, wisdom, and entrepreneurial spirit of a true icon. Host Colin Weston sits down with the remarkable Phillis Meti - ranked #3 in the world and 5 time World Champ - to explore her incredible journey from picking up her father’s shanked golf balls in New Zealand to becoming a global golf ambassador.</p>

<p>Phillis opens up about the fierce mentality required to compete, the pivotal lessons learned from both victory and heartbreaking defeat, and her visionary mission to pave pathways for the next generation. This conversation is a masterclass in longevity, adaptability, and giving back. Whether you&#39;re fascinated by the physics of speed, the business of golf, or stories of profound resilience, Phillis’s insights will leave you inspired and ready to “kick the door down” for your own ambitions. Get ready for an episode packed with power, purpose, and unforgettable stories.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/cTlwO047.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways in this episode with Phillis that you will discover:</strong><br>
<strong>Longevity is Built on Wisdom and Adaptability:</strong><br>
Success isn&#39;t just about raw speed. Phillis credits her sustained career to evolving from a &quot;fearless&quot; hitter into a savvier technical player, learning to adapt her ball flight to different grids, and prioritizing recovery and intelligent strength training.</p>

<p><strong>True Power Starts with Your Hands:</strong><br>
A crucial technical insight for anyone wanting more speed: your hands hold the club, so their movement is paramount. Phillis emphasizes that generating speed is a sequencing chain, where proper hip movement ultimately serves to allow the hands to move faster through the hitting zone.</p>

<p><strong>Create Pathways So Others Can Follow:</strong><br>
Phillis’s vision extends far beyond competition. Inspired by her parents, she is actively working to build an indigenous school and recruitment pipeline to help student-athletes from New Zealand and Polynesia transition to U.S. colleges, ensuring they have the support to succeed. Her mission is to show what’s possible and pull others up with her.</p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:01 - 01:25) Introduction: Welcoming World Long Drive Phenom Phillis Meti<br>
(01:25 - 03:15) From Rugby to Golf: Phillis’s First Swing and Family Influence<br>
(03:15 - 06:26) A Multi-Sport Childhood: The Circuitous Path to Long Drive<br>
(06:26 - 08:42) Anatomy of a Competition: How World Long Drive Works<br>
(08:42 - 13:45) The Speed Equation: Training, Technique, and Swinging 125 MPH<br>
(13:45 - 17:13) Wisdom Over Fear: The Evolution of a Champion&#39;s Mindset<br>
(17:13 - 19:25) The Key to Longevity: Spinal Hygiene and Injury Prevention<br>
(19:25 - 24:35) The 2025 Season Arc: Global Competition and New Formats<br>
(24:35 - 27:59) Inside the Bag: The Tech &amp; Specs of a Long Drive Driver<br>
(27:59 - 31:14) The State of the Game: Community, Competition, and Commerce<br>
(31:14 - 38:31) Entrepreneurial Drive: Building a School and Creating Pathways Home<br>
(38:31 - 42:43) A Vision for the Future: Bringing Long Drive to the Masses &amp; Closing Thoughts</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Phillis:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On Perspective and Growth:</strong><br>
&quot;Winning my first championship in 2006 and coming second twice after, I completely lost focus. I got caught up in the hype. Between then and now, I am a better game player with a bit more wisdom. I play the game differently now.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Equipment and Control:</strong><br>
&quot;The one thing about the women is that we don&#39;t swing it fast enough to afford using lofts lower than a seven-degree head. I have one of the fastest club head speeds, but I use one of the highest lofts on the tour.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Legacy and Lifting Others:</strong><br>
&quot;When you&#39;re on your way up, always try to look back and pull others up with you. So if people want to keep going further than you, at least they have your shoulders to stand on. Why not be me to kick down that door? I&#39;ve got a big foot!&quot;</p>

<p><strong>Phillis Meti&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/phillis-meti" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/phillis-meti</a><br>
Phillis Meti is a multi-time World Long Drive Champion, currently ranked #3 globally, whose career embodies power, resilience, and purpose. Hailing from New Zealand, her journey began at age seven, wielding a club to pick up her father’s errant golf balls. A gifted multi-sport athlete, she excelled in netball and discus before a flyer for a local long drive qualifier at age 18 changed her trajectory. Demonstrating breathtaking natural power, she not only qualified but went on to win the World Long Drive Championship in her very first attempt in 2006. Nearly two decades later, Phillis remains a dominant force, combining 125 MPH clubhead speed with hard-earned wisdom to outthink and outlast the competition on grids across the globe.</p>

<p>Colin and Phillis were part of Team AM Golf at The Vegas Baby ProAm Invitational in Las Vegas, where they shot lots of video including this YouTube Short as part of Colin&#39;s Positivity Project:<br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/_WDI9IYTkCA?si=oIX7kGfvY8nbWuYu" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/H4Xa8VDs.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank our partner <strong>British Columbia Golf</strong> for presenting this episode of The ModGolf Podcast!<br>
<a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RUnDKdBN.png" alt=""></a></p>

<p>When I mentioned Phillis&#39; episode to the folks at British Columbia Golf they immediately wanted to support it, as one of their goals is to create a sport that is accessible and inclusive. They strive to create a golf environment that is respectful of participant&#39;s personal goals and is free from all forms of maltreatment. British Columbia Golf supports women golfers and players of all ages and abilities, while continually working to increase participation in the sport with programs such as the Cloud Series.</p>

<p>British Columbia Golf is the Provincial Sport Organization for golf as recognized by the Government of British Columbia and ViaSport. Golf Canada recognizes the association as the governing body within the province. British Columbia Golf provides programs benefitting golfers and the golf industry in the province. Check out their website <a href="https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/" rel="nofollow">https://britishcolumbiagolf.org/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Phillis Meti: World Long Drive Champion, Entrepreneur, and Legacy Builder.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What if the key to innovating the PGA Tour fan experience was someone who'd never picked up a club? Meet Devon Fox, the Tour's Senior Director of Digital Programs, who reveals how asking the "weird" questions led to breakthroughs like the Fan Council and the tech behind the stunning Apple Vision Pro app. Dive into a conversation that goes beyond golf to explore the future of sports engagement, technology strategy, and creating genuine inclusion from the inside out.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>What does a non-golfer who loves Radiohead and once worked in a nightclub bring to the PGA Tour? A fresh perspective that drives groundbreaking innovation. In this long-awaited conversation, host Colin Weston sits down with Devon Fox, the Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour. After eight years of connecting on LinkedIn, they finally dive into Devon’s unique journey from NASCAR and Nike to leading digital innovation in golf.
Devon shares how her initial (and only) disastrous golf experience became a strategic advantage, allowing her to ask the questions no one else would. She pulls back the curtain on building the PGA Tour's first Fan Council, the decade-long process that led to the stunning Apple Vision Pro app, and how she intentionally "worked herself out of a job" to bake innovation into the Tour's DNA.
Beyond technology, Devon opens up about the deeply personal motivation behind founding the PGA Tour's LGBTQ+ employee resource group, PRISM, and her advocacy for meaningful, policy-driven inclusion. This is a story about challenging tradition, the power of process, and building a future for golf that engages every fan.
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Key takeaways in this episode with Devon that you will discover:
"Golf Ignorance" as an Innovation Superpower:
Devon explains how not being a golfer allowed her to challenge sacred traditions and ask fundamental questions that insiders might overlook, leading to truly fresh thinking in digital fan engagement.
Innovation is a Process, Not a Department:
Learn how Devon moved the PGA Tour from having a small innovation team to baking innovative thinking into the product development process itself, ensuring it becomes a sustainable part of the culture.
Inclusion Starts with Internal Policy, Not External Marketing:
Devon shares her impactful, criteria-driven approach to LGBTQ+ advocacy to create PRISM within the PGA Tour workplace, focusing first on tangible employee benefits and education before any public-facing campaigns, creating lasting structural change.
Episode Chapters:
00:00 - 02:10: Introduction and a Connection Eight Years in the Making
02:10 - 04:20: Devon's First (and Only) Golf Experience: A Hot, Hungry Disaster
04:20 - 07:20: The Strategic Advantage of Being a Non-Golfer &amp;amp; Asking "Weird" Questions
07:20 - 11:20: Building the Fan Council &amp;amp; Sourcing Ideas Directly from Fans
11:20 - 13:30: Learning from the NBA and the Two Rules of Sports Tech Innovation
13:30 - 16:30: Bridging Generations: Using New Tech to Showcase Golf History
16:30 - 19:15: The Innovation Process: From Design Thinking to Working Herself Out of a Job
19:15 - 23:35: Career Journey: From Soul-Sucking Banking to NASCAR and Global Retail at Nike
23:35 - 30:40: Advocacy in Action: Founding PRISM &amp;amp; Driving LGBTQ+ Inclusion from the Inside Out
30:40 - 33:00: The Size and Scope of the PGA Tour Organization
33:00 - 37:00: A Decade-Long Win: The Journey to the Apple Vision Pro App
37:00 - 38:15: Fostering a Culture of Ideas: The Annual Hackathon
38:15 - END: Closing &amp;amp; Teaser for the YouTube Candy Taste Test
Quotable Moments from Devon:
On bringing an outside perspective:
"I really held on to this lack of golf experience and knowledge to give me permission to ask those weird questions that nobody else would ask. It really benefited me."
On the purpose of technology:
"You don't just do innovation and emerging technology for the sake of doing it. It has to have some value for the fan. You have to dig deep and find out what that is."
On the long game of innovation:
"One win I'm really proud of is the work that led up to the Apple Vision Pro app. It's this progression of 'let's see what we require to create it and let's go get after that, then build it in and operationalize that.'"
Want to see Devon's reaction to tasting Thrills, a truly bizarre Canadian "soap-flavoured" gum from the 1970s while trying to carry on a conversation with Colin? Then check out our exclusive and fun bonus segment on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no) or the image below to watch.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ajXva8cb.jpg (https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no) 
Devon Fox's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/devon-fox
Beyond technology, Devon is a passionate advocate for meaningful inclusion within the sports industry. Driven by a personal commitment to creating safer, more supportive workplaces, she founded and leads PRISM, the PGA Tour’s LGBTQ+ employee resource group. Under her leadership, the group has driven substantive policy changes, including the expansion of benefits and resources, demonstrating her belief that true progress is built on internal structural change. Through her dual focus on operational excellence and human-centric culture, Devon Fox plays a pivotal role in shaping both the digital future and the inclusive ethos of the PGA Tour.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/TOGEFzLg.jpg (https://www.golfbusinesstechnologyconference.com/) 
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf)
We want to thank Golf Genius Software who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg (https://www.golfgenius.com)
Golf Genius powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at golfgenius.com (https://www.golfgenius.com). Special Guest: Devon Fox - Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour.
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    <![CDATA[<p>What does a non-golfer who loves Radiohead and once worked in a nightclub bring to the PGA Tour? A fresh perspective that drives groundbreaking innovation. In this long-awaited conversation, host Colin Weston sits down with Devon Fox, the Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour. After eight years of connecting on LinkedIn, they finally dive into Devon’s unique journey from NASCAR and Nike to leading digital innovation in golf.</p>

<p>Devon shares how her initial (and only) disastrous golf experience became a strategic advantage, allowing her to ask the questions no one else would. She pulls back the curtain on building the PGA Tour&#39;s first Fan Council, the decade-long process that led to the stunning Apple Vision Pro app, and how she intentionally &quot;worked herself out of a job&quot; to bake innovation into the Tour&#39;s DNA.</p>

<p>Beyond technology, Devon opens up about the deeply personal motivation behind founding the PGA Tour&#39;s LGBTQ+ employee resource group, PRISM, and her advocacy for meaningful, policy-driven inclusion. This is a story about challenging tradition, the power of process, and building a future for golf that engages every fan.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/MxkicXvQ.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways in this episode with Devon that you will discover:</strong></p>

<p><strong>&quot;Golf Ignorance&quot; as an Innovation Superpower:</strong><br>
Devon explains how not being a golfer allowed her to challenge sacred traditions and ask fundamental questions that insiders might overlook, leading to truly fresh thinking in digital fan engagement.</p>

<p><strong>Innovation is a Process, Not a Department:</strong><br>
Learn how Devon moved the PGA Tour from having a small innovation team to baking innovative thinking into the product development process itself, ensuring it becomes a sustainable part of the culture.</p>

<p><strong>Inclusion Starts with Internal Policy, Not External Marketing:</strong><br>
Devon shares her impactful, criteria-driven approach to LGBTQ+ advocacy to create PRISM within the PGA Tour workplace, focusing first on tangible employee benefits and education before any public-facing campaigns, creating lasting structural change.</p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
00:00 - 02:10: Introduction and a Connection Eight Years in the Making<br>
02:10 - 04:20: Devon&#39;s First (and Only) Golf Experience: A Hot, Hungry Disaster<br>
04:20 - 07:20: The Strategic Advantage of Being a Non-Golfer &amp; Asking &quot;Weird&quot; Questions<br>
07:20 - 11:20: Building the Fan Council &amp; Sourcing Ideas Directly from Fans<br>
11:20 - 13:30: Learning from the NBA and the Two Rules of Sports Tech Innovation<br>
13:30 - 16:30: Bridging Generations: Using New Tech to Showcase Golf History<br>
16:30 - 19:15: The Innovation Process: From Design Thinking to Working Herself Out of a Job<br>
19:15 - 23:35: Career Journey: From Soul-Sucking Banking to NASCAR and Global Retail at Nike<br>
23:35 - 30:40: Advocacy in Action: Founding PRISM &amp; Driving LGBTQ+ Inclusion from the Inside Out<br>
30:40 - 33:00: The Size and Scope of the PGA Tour Organization<br>
33:00 - 37:00: A Decade-Long Win: The Journey to the Apple Vision Pro App<br>
37:00 - 38:15: Fostering a Culture of Ideas: The Annual Hackathon<br>
38:15 - END: Closing &amp; Teaser for the YouTube Candy Taste Test</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Devon:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On bringing an outside perspective:</strong><br>
&quot;I really held on to this lack of golf experience and knowledge to give me permission to ask those weird questions that nobody else would ask. It really benefited me.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the purpose of technology:</strong><br>
&quot;You don&#39;t just do innovation and emerging technology for the sake of doing it. It has to have some value for the fan. You have to dig deep and find out what that is.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the long game of innovation:</strong><br>
&quot;One win I&#39;m really proud of is the work that led up to the Apple Vision Pro app. It&#39;s this progression of &#39;let&#39;s see what we require to create it and let&#39;s go get after that, then build it in and operationalize that.&#39;&quot;</p>

<p>Want to see Devon&#39;s reaction to tasting <strong>Thrills</strong>, a truly bizarre Canadian &quot;soap-flavoured&quot; gum from the 1970s while trying to carry on a conversation with Colin? Then check out our exclusive and fun bonus segment on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ajXva8cb.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Devon Fox&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/devon-fox" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/devon-fox</a><br>
Beyond technology, Devon is a passionate advocate for meaningful inclusion within the sports industry. Driven by a personal commitment to creating safer, more supportive workplaces, she founded and leads PRISM, the PGA Tour’s LGBTQ+ employee resource group. Under her leadership, the group has driven substantive policy changes, including the expansion of benefits and resources, demonstrating her belief that true progress is built on internal structural change. Through her dual focus on operational excellence and human-centric culture, Devon Fox plays a pivotal role in shaping both the digital future and the inclusive ethos of the PGA Tour.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.golfbusinesstechnologyconference.com/" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/TOGEFzLg.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Devon Fox - Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What does a non-golfer who loves Radiohead and once worked in a nightclub bring to the PGA Tour? A fresh perspective that drives groundbreaking innovation. In this long-awaited conversation, host Colin Weston sits down with Devon Fox, the Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour. After eight years of connecting on LinkedIn, they finally dive into Devon’s unique journey from NASCAR and Nike to leading digital innovation in golf.</p>

<p>Devon shares how her initial (and only) disastrous golf experience became a strategic advantage, allowing her to ask the questions no one else would. She pulls back the curtain on building the PGA Tour&#39;s first Fan Council, the decade-long process that led to the stunning Apple Vision Pro app, and how she intentionally &quot;worked herself out of a job&quot; to bake innovation into the Tour&#39;s DNA.</p>

<p>Beyond technology, Devon opens up about the deeply personal motivation behind founding the PGA Tour&#39;s LGBTQ+ employee resource group, PRISM, and her advocacy for meaningful, policy-driven inclusion. This is a story about challenging tradition, the power of process, and building a future for golf that engages every fan.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/MxkicXvQ.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Key takeaways in this episode with Devon that you will discover:</strong></p>

<p><strong>&quot;Golf Ignorance&quot; as an Innovation Superpower:</strong><br>
Devon explains how not being a golfer allowed her to challenge sacred traditions and ask fundamental questions that insiders might overlook, leading to truly fresh thinking in digital fan engagement.</p>

<p><strong>Innovation is a Process, Not a Department:</strong><br>
Learn how Devon moved the PGA Tour from having a small innovation team to baking innovative thinking into the product development process itself, ensuring it becomes a sustainable part of the culture.</p>

<p><strong>Inclusion Starts with Internal Policy, Not External Marketing:</strong><br>
Devon shares her impactful, criteria-driven approach to LGBTQ+ advocacy to create PRISM within the PGA Tour workplace, focusing first on tangible employee benefits and education before any public-facing campaigns, creating lasting structural change.</p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
00:00 - 02:10: Introduction and a Connection Eight Years in the Making<br>
02:10 - 04:20: Devon&#39;s First (and Only) Golf Experience: A Hot, Hungry Disaster<br>
04:20 - 07:20: The Strategic Advantage of Being a Non-Golfer &amp; Asking &quot;Weird&quot; Questions<br>
07:20 - 11:20: Building the Fan Council &amp; Sourcing Ideas Directly from Fans<br>
11:20 - 13:30: Learning from the NBA and the Two Rules of Sports Tech Innovation<br>
13:30 - 16:30: Bridging Generations: Using New Tech to Showcase Golf History<br>
16:30 - 19:15: The Innovation Process: From Design Thinking to Working Herself Out of a Job<br>
19:15 - 23:35: Career Journey: From Soul-Sucking Banking to NASCAR and Global Retail at Nike<br>
23:35 - 30:40: Advocacy in Action: Founding PRISM &amp; Driving LGBTQ+ Inclusion from the Inside Out<br>
30:40 - 33:00: The Size and Scope of the PGA Tour Organization<br>
33:00 - 37:00: A Decade-Long Win: The Journey to the Apple Vision Pro App<br>
37:00 - 38:15: Fostering a Culture of Ideas: The Annual Hackathon<br>
38:15 - END: Closing &amp; Teaser for the YouTube Candy Taste Test</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Devon:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On bringing an outside perspective:</strong><br>
&quot;I really held on to this lack of golf experience and knowledge to give me permission to ask those weird questions that nobody else would ask. It really benefited me.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the purpose of technology:</strong><br>
&quot;You don&#39;t just do innovation and emerging technology for the sake of doing it. It has to have some value for the fan. You have to dig deep and find out what that is.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the long game of innovation:</strong><br>
&quot;One win I&#39;m really proud of is the work that led up to the Apple Vision Pro app. It&#39;s this progression of &#39;let&#39;s see what we require to create it and let&#39;s go get after that, then build it in and operationalize that.&#39;&quot;</p>

<p>Want to see Devon&#39;s reaction to tasting <strong>Thrills</strong>, a truly bizarre Canadian &quot;soap-flavoured&quot; gum from the 1970s while trying to carry on a conversation with Colin? Then check out our exclusive and fun bonus segment on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/cq61CGBB7no" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ajXva8cb.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Devon Fox&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/devon-fox" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/devon-fox</a><br>
Beyond technology, Devon is a passionate advocate for meaningful inclusion within the sports industry. Driven by a personal commitment to creating safer, more supportive workplaces, she founded and leads PRISM, the PGA Tour’s LGBTQ+ employee resource group. Under her leadership, the group has driven substantive policy changes, including the expansion of benefits and resources, demonstrating her belief that true progress is built on internal structural change. Through her dual focus on operational excellence and human-centric culture, Devon Fox plays a pivotal role in shaping both the digital future and the inclusive ethos of the PGA Tour.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.golfbusinesstechnologyconference.com/" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/TOGEFzLg.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Devon Fox - Senior Director of Digital Programs at the PGA Tour.</p>]]>
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  <title>Scaling Success: How Golf Genius Grew into a Global Powerhouse - Chris Kallmeyer, Golf Genius CEO</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Does your business struggle to balance culture with growth? Golf Genius CEO Chris Kallmeyer joins us to offer a masterclass in sustainable growth thats reveals how strategic business innovation, a fanatical focus on customer experience, and disciplined acquisitions fuelled their rise to a global powerhouse in the golf industry.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>What does it take to build a golf technology empire that not only survives but thrives through explosive growth, multiple acquisitions, and rapid industry change? In this power-packed episode, Colin Weston sits down with Chris Kallmeyer, the CEO of Golf Genius, for a masterclass in scaling a business while preserving its core soul. Four years after his first appearance, Chris returns to pull back the curtain on how Golf Genius grew from a tournament software leader into a comprehensive ecosystem serving every facet of the golf professional’s world. We dive deep into the "glue" that holds it all together - a winning company culture - and explore the cutting-edge integrations of AI, the strategic expansion into sim golf, and the mission to create golfers for life.
If you're in the golf industry, a business leader, or simply fascinated by how to build a beloved and enduring company, press play now. This conversation is packed with actionable insights you won't want to miss.
Listen to this full episode with Chris to discover:
Culture is Your #1 Competitive Advantage:
Discover why Golf Genius prioritizes cultural fit above all else, even in acquisitions, and how this focus has resulted in a world-class employee turnover rate of just 4%. Learn how a foundation of over 70 PGA professionals on staff creates an authentic, service-driven brand.
Serving the PGA Professional is the North Star:
Unpack the strategy of viewing the golf professional as the "center of the universe." See how this philosophy naturally led to a portfolio that solves pain points in tournament management, golf shop operations (Golf Shop), handicapping (via the USGA’s GHIN system), and coaching (Operation 36 &amp;amp; CoachNow).
The Practical &amp;amp; Profitable Application of AI:
Move beyond the hype. Chris details exactly how Golf Genius is implementing AI in two key buckets: to boost internal productivity (in development, support, and marketing) and to build powerful, time-saving features for customers, like automated inventory processing and intelligent coaching tools.
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Episode Chapters:
(00:04) Introduction: The Return of Chris Kallmeyer
(02:18) The Foundation: Golf Genius as a Tournament Management Powerhouse
(05:53) The Secret Sauce: Building and Maintaining Company Culture
(08:21) Acquisition Strategy: Why Cultural Fit is Non-Negotiable
(19:02) Defining the Brand: Vision, Values, and Serving the Pro
(13:18) Inside the Ecosystem: Powering the USGA’s Handicap System
(16:36) Solving Pain Points: The Growth of Golf Shop
(19:52) AI in Action: Making Golf Genius and Its Customers More Productiv
(24:52) Growing the Game: The Coaching Portfolio (Operation 36 &amp;amp; CoachNow)
(30:23) The Future is Hybrid: Expanding into Simulator &amp;amp; Indoor Golf
(36:10) Global Growth: Key International Markets
(39:53) Leadership Lessons: Strategic Bets and Saying "No"
(41:51) How to Connect with Golf Genius
Compelling Quotes from Chris
On Culture &amp;amp; Growth: "We have a blended turnover with 300 people worldwide of something like 4% a year. That's world-class. It illustrates that we have a great culture that people enjoy working for. But beyond luck, we do take it very seriously and we work hard to maintain that culture, which gets harder and harder as you get bigger."*
On Their Core Mission: "Our goal is to make the hard things easy while also making the easy things easy. We serve PGA professionals. They're the center of our universe. Whether they're running tournaments, managing golf shops, or coaching, we have products that help them do all those things, and we're here to serve them."
On AI Strategy: "We look at AI in two primary buckets: How can we use AI to make ourselves more productive? And the second bucket is, how can we use AI to deliver AI-powered features that make our customers more productive or deliver capabilities that they don't already have."
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Chris on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE) or the image below to see visual insights and dive deeper with Chris.
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Chris Kallmeyer's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/chris-kallmeyer
Chris Kallmeyer is the CEO of Golf Genius, a global leader in golf technology solutions that power the sport's ecosystem. With a career deeply rooted in both technology and a passion for the game, Chris has guided the company through a period of remarkable expansion, transforming it from a premier tournament management platform into a comprehensive suite of tools serving golf professionals at every level. Under his leadership, Golf Genius has successfully integrated ten strategic acquisitions—including Operation 36, CoachNow, and GolfShot—while maintaining an unwavering focus on a customer-centric culture and brand integrity. His philosophy centers on serving PGA professionals as the core of the business, a principle that has driven the development and success of products across tournament operations, golf shop management, handicapping, and player development.
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg (https://www.golfgenius.com)
Today's golf professionals do way more than run tournaments - and so does Golf Genius. They help you manage tournaments, leagues, and outings, streamline pro shop operations, and elevate your coaching and player development. That's why over 10,000 clubs, courses, resorts, associations, and tours in more than 60 countries trust Golf Genius. Find out what Golf Genius can do for your facility at golfgenius.com (https://www.golfgenius.com).
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf) Special Guest: Chris Kallmeyer, CEO at Golf Genius Software.
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    <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to build a golf technology empire that not only survives but thrives through explosive growth, multiple acquisitions, and rapid industry change? In this power-packed episode, Colin Weston sits down with Chris Kallmeyer, the CEO of Golf Genius, for a masterclass in scaling a business while preserving its core soul. Four years after his first appearance, Chris returns to pull back the curtain on how Golf Genius grew from a tournament software leader into a comprehensive ecosystem serving every facet of the golf professional’s world. We dive deep into the &quot;glue&quot; that holds it all together - a winning company culture - and explore the cutting-edge integrations of AI, the strategic expansion into sim golf, and the mission to create golfers for life.</p>

<p>If you&#39;re in the golf industry, a business leader, or simply fascinated by how to build a beloved and enduring company, press play now. This conversation is packed with actionable insights you won&#39;t want to miss.</p>

<p><strong>Listen to this full episode with Chris to discover:</strong><br>
<strong>Culture is Your #1 Competitive Advantage:</strong><br>
Discover why Golf Genius prioritizes cultural fit above all else, even in acquisitions, and how this focus has resulted in a world-class employee turnover rate of just 4%. Learn how a foundation of over 70 PGA professionals on staff creates an authentic, service-driven brand.</p>

<p><strong>Serving the PGA Professional is the North Star:</strong><br>
Unpack the strategy of viewing the golf professional as the &quot;center of the universe.&quot; See how this philosophy naturally led to a portfolio that solves pain points in tournament management, golf shop operations (Golf Shop), handicapping (via the USGA’s GHIN system), and coaching (Operation 36 &amp; CoachNow).</p>

<p><strong>The Practical &amp; Profitable Application of AI:</strong><br>
Move beyond the hype. Chris details exactly how Golf Genius is implementing AI in two key buckets: to boost internal productivity (in development, support, and marketing) and to build powerful, time-saving features for customers, like automated inventory processing and intelligent coaching tools.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/jL3Nhpua.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:04) Introduction: The Return of Chris Kallmeyer<br>
(02:18) The Foundation: Golf Genius as a Tournament Management Powerhouse<br>
(05:53) The Secret Sauce: Building and Maintaining Company Culture<br>
(08:21) Acquisition Strategy: Why Cultural Fit is Non-Negotiable<br>
(19:02) Defining the Brand: Vision, Values, and Serving the Pro<br>
(13:18) Inside the Ecosystem: Powering the USGA’s Handicap System<br>
(16:36) Solving Pain Points: The Growth of Golf Shop<br>
(19:52) AI in Action: Making Golf Genius and Its Customers More Productiv<br>
(24:52) Growing the Game: The Coaching Portfolio (Operation 36 &amp; CoachNow)<br>
(30:23) The Future is Hybrid: Expanding into Simulator &amp; Indoor Golf<br>
(36:10) Global Growth: Key International Markets<br>
(39:53) Leadership Lessons: Strategic Bets and Saying &quot;No&quot;<br>
(41:51) How to Connect with Golf Genius</p>

<p><strong>Compelling Quotes from Chris</strong><br>
<strong>On Culture &amp; Growth:</strong> &quot;We have a blended turnover with 300 people worldwide of something like 4% a year. That&#39;s world-class. It illustrates that we have a great culture that people enjoy working for. But beyond luck, we do take it very seriously and we work hard to maintain that culture, which gets harder and harder as you get bigger.&quot;*</p>

<p><strong>On Their Core Mission:</strong> &quot;Our goal is to make the hard things easy while also making the easy things easy. We serve PGA professionals. They&#39;re the center of our universe. Whether they&#39;re running tournaments, managing golf shops, or coaching, we have products that help them do all those things, and we&#39;re here to serve them.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On AI Strategy:</strong> &quot;We look at AI in two primary buckets: How can we use AI to make ourselves more productive? And the second bucket is, how can we use AI to deliver AI-powered features that make our customers more productive or deliver capabilities that they don&#39;t already have.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Chris on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to see visual insights and dive deeper with Chris.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/CFFfqOXl.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Chris Kallmeyer&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/chris-kallmeyer" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/chris-kallmeyer</a><br>
Chris Kallmeyer is the CEO of Golf Genius, a global leader in golf technology solutions that power the sport&#39;s ecosystem. With a career deeply rooted in both technology and a passion for the game, Chris has guided the company through a period of remarkable expansion, transforming it from a premier tournament management platform into a comprehensive suite of tools serving golf professionals at every level. Under his leadership, Golf Genius has successfully integrated ten strategic acquisitions—including Operation 36, CoachNow, and GolfShot—while maintaining an unwavering focus on a customer-centric culture and brand integrity. His philosophy centers on serving PGA professionals as the core of the business, a principle that has driven the development and success of products across tournament operations, golf shop management, handicapping, and player development.</p>

<p>Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
Today&#39;s golf professionals do way more than run tournaments - and so does Golf Genius. They help you manage tournaments, leagues, and outings, streamline pro shop operations, and elevate your coaching and player development. That&#39;s why over 10,000 clubs, courses, resorts, associations, and tours in more than 60 countries trust Golf Genius. Find out what Golf Genius can do for your facility at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: Chris Kallmeyer, CEO at Golf Genius Software.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to build a golf technology empire that not only survives but thrives through explosive growth, multiple acquisitions, and rapid industry change? In this power-packed episode, Colin Weston sits down with Chris Kallmeyer, the CEO of Golf Genius, for a masterclass in scaling a business while preserving its core soul. Four years after his first appearance, Chris returns to pull back the curtain on how Golf Genius grew from a tournament software leader into a comprehensive ecosystem serving every facet of the golf professional’s world. We dive deep into the &quot;glue&quot; that holds it all together - a winning company culture - and explore the cutting-edge integrations of AI, the strategic expansion into sim golf, and the mission to create golfers for life.</p>

<p>If you&#39;re in the golf industry, a business leader, or simply fascinated by how to build a beloved and enduring company, press play now. This conversation is packed with actionable insights you won&#39;t want to miss.</p>

<p><strong>Listen to this full episode with Chris to discover:</strong><br>
<strong>Culture is Your #1 Competitive Advantage:</strong><br>
Discover why Golf Genius prioritizes cultural fit above all else, even in acquisitions, and how this focus has resulted in a world-class employee turnover rate of just 4%. Learn how a foundation of over 70 PGA professionals on staff creates an authentic, service-driven brand.</p>

<p><strong>Serving the PGA Professional is the North Star:</strong><br>
Unpack the strategy of viewing the golf professional as the &quot;center of the universe.&quot; See how this philosophy naturally led to a portfolio that solves pain points in tournament management, golf shop operations (Golf Shop), handicapping (via the USGA’s GHIN system), and coaching (Operation 36 &amp; CoachNow).</p>

<p><strong>The Practical &amp; Profitable Application of AI:</strong><br>
Move beyond the hype. Chris details exactly how Golf Genius is implementing AI in two key buckets: to boost internal productivity (in development, support, and marketing) and to build powerful, time-saving features for customers, like automated inventory processing and intelligent coaching tools.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/jL3Nhpua.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:04) Introduction: The Return of Chris Kallmeyer<br>
(02:18) The Foundation: Golf Genius as a Tournament Management Powerhouse<br>
(05:53) The Secret Sauce: Building and Maintaining Company Culture<br>
(08:21) Acquisition Strategy: Why Cultural Fit is Non-Negotiable<br>
(19:02) Defining the Brand: Vision, Values, and Serving the Pro<br>
(13:18) Inside the Ecosystem: Powering the USGA’s Handicap System<br>
(16:36) Solving Pain Points: The Growth of Golf Shop<br>
(19:52) AI in Action: Making Golf Genius and Its Customers More Productiv<br>
(24:52) Growing the Game: The Coaching Portfolio (Operation 36 &amp; CoachNow)<br>
(30:23) The Future is Hybrid: Expanding into Simulator &amp; Indoor Golf<br>
(36:10) Global Growth: Key International Markets<br>
(39:53) Leadership Lessons: Strategic Bets and Saying &quot;No&quot;<br>
(41:51) How to Connect with Golf Genius</p>

<p><strong>Compelling Quotes from Chris</strong><br>
<strong>On Culture &amp; Growth:</strong> &quot;We have a blended turnover with 300 people worldwide of something like 4% a year. That&#39;s world-class. It illustrates that we have a great culture that people enjoy working for. But beyond luck, we do take it very seriously and we work hard to maintain that culture, which gets harder and harder as you get bigger.&quot;*</p>

<p><strong>On Their Core Mission:</strong> &quot;Our goal is to make the hard things easy while also making the easy things easy. We serve PGA professionals. They&#39;re the center of our universe. Whether they&#39;re running tournaments, managing golf shops, or coaching, we have products that help them do all those things, and we&#39;re here to serve them.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On AI Strategy:</strong> &quot;We look at AI in two primary buckets: How can we use AI to make ourselves more productive? And the second bucket is, how can we use AI to deliver AI-powered features that make our customers more productive or deliver capabilities that they don&#39;t already have.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Chris on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to see visual insights and dive deeper with Chris.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/C5KypU0-hKE" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/CFFfqOXl.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Chris Kallmeyer&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/chris-kallmeyer" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/chris-kallmeyer</a><br>
Chris Kallmeyer is the CEO of Golf Genius, a global leader in golf technology solutions that power the sport&#39;s ecosystem. With a career deeply rooted in both technology and a passion for the game, Chris has guided the company through a period of remarkable expansion, transforming it from a premier tournament management platform into a comprehensive suite of tools serving golf professionals at every level. Under his leadership, Golf Genius has successfully integrated ten strategic acquisitions—including Operation 36, CoachNow, and GolfShot—while maintaining an unwavering focus on a customer-centric culture and brand integrity. His philosophy centers on serving PGA professionals as the core of the business, a principle that has driven the development and success of products across tournament operations, golf shop management, handicapping, and player development.</p>

<p>Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
Today&#39;s golf professionals do way more than run tournaments - and so does Golf Genius. They help you manage tournaments, leagues, and outings, streamline pro shop operations, and elevate your coaching and player development. That&#39;s why over 10,000 clubs, courses, resorts, associations, and tours in more than 60 countries trust Golf Genius. Find out what Golf Genius can do for your facility at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: Chris Kallmeyer, CEO at Golf Genius Software.</p>]]>
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  <title>How The Internet Invitational Sparked a Golf Media Revolution - with Matt Fisher, creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube Channel</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>YouTube golf content creator Matt Fisher and host Colin Weston dissect the record-breaking success of the Internet Invitational and its over 23 million views. He explains how its raw, personality-driven format is a blueprint for the future, offering a masterclass in what modern golf fans truly want from their entertainment.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Host Colin Weston sits down with YouTube golf pioneer Matt Fisher (Mr. Short Game) to dissect the cultural phenomenon of the Internet Invitational. They break down the 23-million-view event, exploring why its reality-TV format and creator-driven personalities are resonating with a new generation of fans. Matt shares his expert take on the "winners and losers," the cheating controversy, and why this model is a blueprint for the future of golf entertainment. Finally, they look ahead to the evolving golf media landscape, including TGL and Grass League, and discuss how authenticity is the ultimate key to success for aspiring creators.
Listen to this full episode with Matt to discover:
Personality is the New Premium:
The massive success of the Internet Invitational proves that modern audiences crave authentic personality and entertainment as much as they value elite ball-striking. The unfiltered, reality-show format is a powerful new model for golf engagement.
Strategic Content Separation is Key:
To grow an audience effectively, separate your content by purpose. Matt is splitting his channel into three: one for instruction, one for on-course vlogs, and one for the Mr. Short Game Podcast, ensuring each audience finds exactly what they want.
Multiple Revenue Streams Drive Sustainability:
Relying solely on YouTube ad revenue is risky. A successful creator business is built on a mix of AdSense, strategic brand deals, and affiliate partnerships, all while prioritizing the audience's trust and interests above a quick payday.
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Episode Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction: Welcoming back YouTube golf pioneer Matt Fisher aka: Mr. Short Game
(02:30) The Internet Invitational Breakdown: The surprise success of the 23-million-view event
(05:15) Strategy &amp;amp; Timing: Why the delayed release was a brilliant move
(08:45) Audience &amp;amp; "Bro Culture": Did the event reach new fans or just its base?
(12:30) Reality TV &amp;amp; Manufactured Drama: Analyzing the cheating scandal and villain arcs
(16:00) Stock Up, Stock Down: The creators who won and lost in the public eye
(20:15) The Casting Dilemma: Why some creators were chosen and others weren't
(23:00) The Future of Golf Media: TGL, LIV, Grass League, and where the real opportunity lies
(27:30) TGL vs. Influencer Golf: Why pros and creators thrive in different ecosystems
(29:45) The Mr. Short Game Business Model: Revenue streams and building a sustainable content brand
(32:15) Advice for Aspiring Creators: How to break into the YouTube golf space
Compelling Quotes from Matt
On the Internet Invitational's Appeal:
"You have to know going in that this is a reality show and everything's on the table... It's on brand for Barstool. And Bob, especially Dave Portnoy, he is going to exploit every opportunity he has. And I don't blame him. He's creating a great entertaining show."
On the Difference Between Pros and Creators:
"You get Grant Horvat, you put him in the Masters, he's going to come in dead last. But you put him in a cart with Bryson DeChambeau, he's going to come in first in terms of views."
On Authenticity for Creators:
"The challenge is you see what's working and you just try to copy it as opposed to being authentic of who you are and create your own brand. You gotta film yourself and you gotta find who you are in front of that camera and be authentically you."
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Matt on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y) or the image below to watch.
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Mr. Short Game's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-fisher
As a golf coach Matt has learned that not everybody can be Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus or Phil Mickelson. However, with some simple golf instruction and swing tips you can become a great player and shoot your lowest scores consistently.  Matt's goal is to give you great videos that will help you understand the golf swing so you can improve in your chipping, putting, driving and have a powerful swing that will last forever. Will you make it to the PGA Tour? Who knows. But with the right attitude and instruction you can have more fun and play the game of golf at a very competitive level. 
Mr. Short Game is here to help grow the game of golf in a fun and creative way: https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame 
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Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf)
We want to thank Golf Genius Software who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg (https://www.golfgenius.com)
Today's golf professionals do way more than run tournaments - and so does Golf Genius. They help you manage tournaments, leagues, and outings, streamline pro shop operations, and elevate your coaching and player development. That's why over 10,000 clubs, courses, resorts, associations, and tours in more than 60 countries trust Golf Genius. Find out what Golf Genius can do for your facility at golfgenius.com (https://www.golfgenius.com). Special Guest: Matt Fisher, Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube channel.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Host Colin Weston sits down with YouTube golf pioneer Matt Fisher (Mr. Short Game) to dissect the cultural phenomenon of the Internet Invitational. They break down the 23-million-view event, exploring why its reality-TV format and creator-driven personalities are resonating with a new generation of fans. Matt shares his expert take on the &quot;winners and losers,&quot; the cheating controversy, and why this model is a blueprint for the future of golf entertainment. Finally, they look ahead to the evolving golf media landscape, including TGL and Grass League, and discuss how authenticity is the ultimate key to success for aspiring creators.</p>

<p><strong>Listen to this full episode with Matt to discover:</strong><br>
<strong>Personality is the New Premium:</strong><br>
The massive success of the Internet Invitational proves that modern audiences crave authentic personality and entertainment as much as they value elite ball-striking. The unfiltered, reality-show format is a powerful new model for golf engagement.</p>

<p><strong>Strategic Content Separation is Key:</strong><br>
To grow an audience effectively, separate your content by purpose. Matt is splitting his channel into three: one for instruction, one for on-course vlogs, and one for the Mr. Short Game Podcast, ensuring each audience finds exactly what they want.</p>

<p><strong>Multiple Revenue Streams Drive Sustainability:</strong><br>
Relying solely on YouTube ad revenue is risky. A successful creator business is built on a mix of AdSense, strategic brand deals, and affiliate partnerships, all while prioritizing the audience&#39;s trust and interests above a quick payday.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/z2n4cvDp.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:00) Introduction: Welcoming back YouTube golf pioneer Matt Fisher aka: Mr. Short Game<br>
(02:30) The Internet Invitational Breakdown: The surprise success of the 23-million-view event<br>
(05:15) Strategy &amp; Timing: Why the delayed release was a brilliant move<br>
(08:45) Audience &amp; &quot;Bro Culture&quot;: Did the event reach new fans or just its base?<br>
(12:30) Reality TV &amp; Manufactured Drama: Analyzing the cheating scandal and villain arcs<br>
(16:00) Stock Up, Stock Down: The creators who won and lost in the public eye<br>
(20:15) The Casting Dilemma: Why some creators were chosen and others weren&#39;t<br>
(23:00) The Future of Golf Media: TGL, LIV, Grass League, and where the real opportunity lies<br>
(27:30) TGL vs. Influencer Golf: Why pros and creators thrive in different ecosystems<br>
(29:45) The Mr. Short Game Business Model: Revenue streams and building a sustainable content brand<br>
(32:15) Advice for Aspiring Creators: How to break into the YouTube golf space</p>

<p><strong>Compelling Quotes from Matt</strong><br>
<strong>On the Internet Invitational&#39;s Appeal:</strong><br>
&quot;You have to know going in that this is a reality show and everything&#39;s on the table... It&#39;s on brand for Barstool. And Bob, especially Dave Portnoy, he is going to exploit every opportunity he has. And I don&#39;t blame him. He&#39;s creating a great entertaining show.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Difference Between Pros and Creators:</strong><br>
&quot;You get Grant Horvat, you put him in the Masters, he&#39;s going to come in dead last. But you put him in a cart with Bryson DeChambeau, he&#39;s going to come in first in terms of views.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Authenticity for Creators:</strong><br>
&quot;The challenge is you see what&#39;s working and you just try to copy it as opposed to being authentic of who you are and create your own brand. You gotta film yourself and you gotta find who you are in front of that camera and be authentically you.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/W3KvK0Ao.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Mr. Short Game&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-fisher" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-fisher</a><br>
As a golf coach Matt has learned that not everybody can be Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus or Phil Mickelson. However, with some simple golf instruction and swing tips you can become a great player and shoot your lowest scores consistently.  Matt&#39;s goal is to give you great videos that will help you understand the golf swing so you can improve in your chipping, putting, driving and have a powerful swing that will last forever. Will you make it to the PGA Tour? Who knows. But with the right attitude and instruction you can have more fun and play the game of golf at a very competitive level. </p>

<p><strong>Mr. Short Game</strong> is here to help grow the game of golf in a fun and creative way: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RzYDk1gV.png" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
Today&#39;s golf professionals do way more than run tournaments - and so does Golf Genius. They help you manage tournaments, leagues, and outings, streamline pro shop operations, and elevate your coaching and player development. That&#39;s why over 10,000 clubs, courses, resorts, associations, and tours in more than 60 countries trust Golf Genius. Find out what Golf Genius can do for your facility at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Matt Fisher, Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube channel.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Host Colin Weston sits down with YouTube golf pioneer Matt Fisher (Mr. Short Game) to dissect the cultural phenomenon of the Internet Invitational. They break down the 23-million-view event, exploring why its reality-TV format and creator-driven personalities are resonating with a new generation of fans. Matt shares his expert take on the &quot;winners and losers,&quot; the cheating controversy, and why this model is a blueprint for the future of golf entertainment. Finally, they look ahead to the evolving golf media landscape, including TGL and Grass League, and discuss how authenticity is the ultimate key to success for aspiring creators.</p>

<p><strong>Listen to this full episode with Matt to discover:</strong><br>
<strong>Personality is the New Premium:</strong><br>
The massive success of the Internet Invitational proves that modern audiences crave authentic personality and entertainment as much as they value elite ball-striking. The unfiltered, reality-show format is a powerful new model for golf engagement.</p>

<p><strong>Strategic Content Separation is Key:</strong><br>
To grow an audience effectively, separate your content by purpose. Matt is splitting his channel into three: one for instruction, one for on-course vlogs, and one for the Mr. Short Game Podcast, ensuring each audience finds exactly what they want.</p>

<p><strong>Multiple Revenue Streams Drive Sustainability:</strong><br>
Relying solely on YouTube ad revenue is risky. A successful creator business is built on a mix of AdSense, strategic brand deals, and affiliate partnerships, all while prioritizing the audience&#39;s trust and interests above a quick payday.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/z2n4cvDp.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:00) Introduction: Welcoming back YouTube golf pioneer Matt Fisher aka: Mr. Short Game<br>
(02:30) The Internet Invitational Breakdown: The surprise success of the 23-million-view event<br>
(05:15) Strategy &amp; Timing: Why the delayed release was a brilliant move<br>
(08:45) Audience &amp; &quot;Bro Culture&quot;: Did the event reach new fans or just its base?<br>
(12:30) Reality TV &amp; Manufactured Drama: Analyzing the cheating scandal and villain arcs<br>
(16:00) Stock Up, Stock Down: The creators who won and lost in the public eye<br>
(20:15) The Casting Dilemma: Why some creators were chosen and others weren&#39;t<br>
(23:00) The Future of Golf Media: TGL, LIV, Grass League, and where the real opportunity lies<br>
(27:30) TGL vs. Influencer Golf: Why pros and creators thrive in different ecosystems<br>
(29:45) The Mr. Short Game Business Model: Revenue streams and building a sustainable content brand<br>
(32:15) Advice for Aspiring Creators: How to break into the YouTube golf space</p>

<p><strong>Compelling Quotes from Matt</strong><br>
<strong>On the Internet Invitational&#39;s Appeal:</strong><br>
&quot;You have to know going in that this is a reality show and everything&#39;s on the table... It&#39;s on brand for Barstool. And Bob, especially Dave Portnoy, he is going to exploit every opportunity he has. And I don&#39;t blame him. He&#39;s creating a great entertaining show.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Difference Between Pros and Creators:</strong><br>
&quot;You get Grant Horvat, you put him in the Masters, he&#39;s going to come in dead last. But you put him in a cart with Bryson DeChambeau, he&#39;s going to come in first in terms of views.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Authenticity for Creators:</strong><br>
&quot;The challenge is you see what&#39;s working and you just try to copy it as opposed to being authentic of who you are and create your own brand. You gotta film yourself and you gotta find who you are in front of that camera and be authentically you.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below to watch.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/H9KFIArzn0Y" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/W3KvK0Ao.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p><strong>Mr. Short Game&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-fisher" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-fisher</a><br>
As a golf coach Matt has learned that not everybody can be Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus or Phil Mickelson. However, with some simple golf instruction and swing tips you can become a great player and shoot your lowest scores consistently.  Matt&#39;s goal is to give you great videos that will help you understand the golf swing so you can improve in your chipping, putting, driving and have a powerful swing that will last forever. Will you make it to the PGA Tour? Who knows. But with the right attitude and instruction you can have more fun and play the game of golf at a very competitive level. </p>

<p><strong>Mr. Short Game</strong> is here to help grow the game of golf in a fun and creative way: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MrShortGame" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/RzYDk1gV.png" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> who have supported The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
Today&#39;s golf professionals do way more than run tournaments - and so does Golf Genius. They help you manage tournaments, leagues, and outings, streamline pro shop operations, and elevate your coaching and player development. That&#39;s why over 10,000 clubs, courses, resorts, associations, and tours in more than 60 countries trust Golf Genius. Find out what Golf Genius can do for your facility at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Matt Fisher, Creator of The Mr. Short Game YouTube channel.</p>]]>
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  <title>Creating a unique lesson path for every golfer - Alex Prasad, CEO at V1 Sports</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>"Golfers and instructors can tell you their pain points and aspirations, but what they can't tell you is the solution. It's not their job. That's ours." Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports shares the company journey from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this episode of The ModGolf Podcast host Colin Weston sits down with Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports, a company that has been a cornerstone of golf technology for over three decades. Alex shares the journey of V1 Sports from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.
We dive deep into the pivotal "come-to-Jesus" moment that forced the company to re-evaluate its path, the cultural shift to a data-driven mindset, and how they are now using their new AI tool, "V1CTOR," to solve the biggest pain points for golf instructors - time and student engagement. This is a masterclass in business transformation, product-market fit, and building a platform that creates a true win-win-win for the company, the coach, and the golfer.
During this episode you will discover these inspiring takeaways:
Embrace the "Why" Behind the Data
Learn how V1 Sports moved beyond assumptions by relentlessly asking "how do we know?" This shift to a data-validated culture gave them the courage to innovate confidently and build products based on proven user needs, not just gut feelings.
Solve the Real Problem, Not the Stated One
Discover how Alex and his team decoded the common complaint from pros that they "don't have enough time." They uncovered the deeper issue of seasonality and student re-engagement, leading to AI-driven solutions that automate relationship-building.
Trust is Built by Providing Value First
Hear how V1 Sports flipped the script on traditional coaching models. By using AI to facilitate a "Quick Fix"—a free, personalized piece of feedback—they create a gateway to trust between a golfer and a pro, proving value before a transaction ever occurs.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/2parL16M.jpg
Episode Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:29) The Power of Invitation: Alex's First Golf Experience
(04:02) The Origin Story of V1 Sports
(06:55) The Innovator's Dilemma: The Inflection Point for V1
(12:18) The Hard Work of Product Validation: Talking to Customers
(16:11) The V1 Product Suite and the Introduction of "V1CTOR" AI
(22:14) Building Trust in a Digital World
(27:40) The V1 Business Model: A Two-Sided, Curated Marketplace
(31:51) The Hardware Game: Ground Pressure Sensors and the Unseeable Data
(34:33) Expanding to Other Sports? The Power of Focus
(38:44) The Entrepreneurial Marathon: Lessons from Endurance Sports
(43:30) How to Connect with Alex Prasad and V1 Sports
Book referenced during our converation: The Innovator's Dilemma (https://www.amazon.ca/Innovators-Dilemma-New-Foreword-Technologies/dp/1647826764/ref=asc_df_1647826764) by Clayton M. Christensen
Quotable Moments from Alex:
On Challenging Assumptions:
"Intuition can tell you where to look, but the data is going to validate or invalidate that's the right place to press."
On Understanding Customer Needs:
"What you learn is, customers can tell you their pain points, they can tell you their aspirations, but what they can't tell you is the solution... It's not their job. That's ours."
On the Core Philosophy of V1's AI companion, V1CTOR:
"The best way to build trust between a random person on the internet and a golf instructor is to show some value first."
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Alex on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/TDyhOE2DEuo) or the image below.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/2DQnq5hM.jpg (https://youtu.be/TDyhOE2DEuo) 
Want to connect with Alex? Check out his bio page to make that happen!
Alex Prasad's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/alex-prasad
Visit the V1 Sports website (https://v1sports.com/) to learn more and to download the V1 Golf App in the Apple App Store or Google Play Store.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/fC_NoWtr.png (https://v1sports.com/) 
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf) Special Guest: Alex Prasad - CEO at V1 Sports.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The ModGolf Podcast host Colin Weston sits down with Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports, a company that has been a cornerstone of golf technology for over three decades. Alex shares the journey of V1 Sports from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.</p>

<p>We dive deep into the pivotal &quot;come-to-Jesus&quot; moment that forced the company to re-evaluate its path, the cultural shift to a data-driven mindset, and how they are now using their new AI tool, &quot;V1CTOR,&quot; to solve the biggest pain points for golf instructors - time and student engagement. This is a masterclass in business transformation, product-market fit, and building a platform that creates a true win-win-win for the company, the coach, and the golfer.</p>

<p><strong>During this episode you will discover these inspiring takeaways:</strong></p>

<p><strong>Embrace the &quot;Why&quot; Behind the Data</strong><br>
Learn how V1 Sports moved beyond assumptions by relentlessly asking &quot;how do we know?&quot; This shift to a data-validated culture gave them the courage to innovate confidently and build products based on proven user needs, not just gut feelings.</p>

<p><strong>Solve the Real Problem, Not the Stated One</strong><br>
Discover how Alex and his team decoded the common complaint from pros that they &quot;don&#39;t have enough time.&quot; They uncovered the deeper issue of seasonality and student re-engagement, leading to AI-driven solutions that automate relationship-building.</p>

<p><strong>Trust is Built by Providing Value First</strong><br>
Hear how V1 Sports flipped the script on traditional coaching models. By using AI to facilitate a &quot;Quick Fix&quot;—a free, personalized piece of feedback—they create a gateway to trust between a golfer and a pro, proving value before a transaction ever occurs.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/2parL16M.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:00) Introduction<br>
(01:29) The Power of Invitation: Alex&#39;s First Golf Experience<br>
(04:02) The Origin Story of V1 Sports<br>
(06:55) The Innovator&#39;s Dilemma: The Inflection Point for V1<br>
(12:18) The Hard Work of Product Validation: Talking to Customers<br>
(16:11) The V1 Product Suite and the Introduction of &quot;V1CTOR&quot; AI<br>
(22:14) Building Trust in a Digital World<br>
(27:40) The V1 Business Model: A Two-Sided, Curated Marketplace<br>
(31:51) The Hardware Game: Ground Pressure Sensors and the Unseeable Data<br>
(34:33) Expanding to Other Sports? The Power of Focus<br>
(38:44) The Entrepreneurial Marathon: Lessons from Endurance Sports<br>
(43:30) How to Connect with Alex Prasad and V1 Sports</p>

<p>Book referenced during our converation: <strong><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Innovators-Dilemma-New-Foreword-Technologies/dp/1647826764/ref=asc_df_1647826764" rel="nofollow">The Innovator&#39;s Dilemma</a></strong> by Clayton M. Christensen</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Alex:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On Challenging Assumptions:</strong><br>
&quot;Intuition can tell you where to look, but the data is going to validate or invalidate that&#39;s the right place to press.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Understanding Customer Needs:</strong><br>
&quot;What you learn is, customers can tell you their pain points, they can tell you their aspirations, but what they can&#39;t tell you is the solution... It&#39;s not their job. That&#39;s ours.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Core Philosophy of V1&#39;s AI companion, V1CTOR:</strong><br>
&quot;The best way to build trust between a random person on the internet and a golf instructor is to show some value first.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Alex on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/TDyhOE2DEuo" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/TDyhOE2DEuo" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/2DQnq5hM.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p>Want to connect with Alex? Check out his bio page to make that happen!<br>
<strong>Alex Prasad&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/alex-prasad" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/alex-prasad</a></p>

<p>Visit the <a href="https://v1sports.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>V1 Sports website</strong></a> to learn more and to download the V1 Golf App in the Apple App Store or Google Play Store.<br>
<a href="https://v1sports.com/" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/fC_NoWtr.png" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: Alex Prasad - CEO at V1 Sports.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The ModGolf Podcast host Colin Weston sits down with Alex Prasad, the CEO of V1 Sports, a company that has been a cornerstone of golf technology for over three decades. Alex shares the journey of V1 Sports from its origins in pioneering video analysis to its current position as an innovator leveraging AI and ground force sensors.</p>

<p>We dive deep into the pivotal &quot;come-to-Jesus&quot; moment that forced the company to re-evaluate its path, the cultural shift to a data-driven mindset, and how they are now using their new AI tool, &quot;V1CTOR,&quot; to solve the biggest pain points for golf instructors - time and student engagement. This is a masterclass in business transformation, product-market fit, and building a platform that creates a true win-win-win for the company, the coach, and the golfer.</p>

<p><strong>During this episode you will discover these inspiring takeaways:</strong></p>

<p><strong>Embrace the &quot;Why&quot; Behind the Data</strong><br>
Learn how V1 Sports moved beyond assumptions by relentlessly asking &quot;how do we know?&quot; This shift to a data-validated culture gave them the courage to innovate confidently and build products based on proven user needs, not just gut feelings.</p>

<p><strong>Solve the Real Problem, Not the Stated One</strong><br>
Discover how Alex and his team decoded the common complaint from pros that they &quot;don&#39;t have enough time.&quot; They uncovered the deeper issue of seasonality and student re-engagement, leading to AI-driven solutions that automate relationship-building.</p>

<p><strong>Trust is Built by Providing Value First</strong><br>
Hear how V1 Sports flipped the script on traditional coaching models. By using AI to facilitate a &quot;Quick Fix&quot;—a free, personalized piece of feedback—they create a gateway to trust between a golfer and a pro, proving value before a transaction ever occurs.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/2parL16M.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
(00:00) Introduction<br>
(01:29) The Power of Invitation: Alex&#39;s First Golf Experience<br>
(04:02) The Origin Story of V1 Sports<br>
(06:55) The Innovator&#39;s Dilemma: The Inflection Point for V1<br>
(12:18) The Hard Work of Product Validation: Talking to Customers<br>
(16:11) The V1 Product Suite and the Introduction of &quot;V1CTOR&quot; AI<br>
(22:14) Building Trust in a Digital World<br>
(27:40) The V1 Business Model: A Two-Sided, Curated Marketplace<br>
(31:51) The Hardware Game: Ground Pressure Sensors and the Unseeable Data<br>
(34:33) Expanding to Other Sports? The Power of Focus<br>
(38:44) The Entrepreneurial Marathon: Lessons from Endurance Sports<br>
(43:30) How to Connect with Alex Prasad and V1 Sports</p>

<p>Book referenced during our converation: <strong><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Innovators-Dilemma-New-Foreword-Technologies/dp/1647826764/ref=asc_df_1647826764" rel="nofollow">The Innovator&#39;s Dilemma</a></strong> by Clayton M. Christensen</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Alex:</strong></p>

<p><strong>On Challenging Assumptions:</strong><br>
&quot;Intuition can tell you where to look, but the data is going to validate or invalidate that&#39;s the right place to press.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On Understanding Customer Needs:</strong><br>
&quot;What you learn is, customers can tell you their pain points, they can tell you their aspirations, but what they can&#39;t tell you is the solution... It&#39;s not their job. That&#39;s ours.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the Core Philosophy of V1&#39;s AI companion, V1CTOR:</strong><br>
&quot;The best way to build trust between a random person on the internet and a golf instructor is to show some value first.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Alex on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/TDyhOE2DEuo" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/TDyhOE2DEuo" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/2DQnq5hM.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p>Want to connect with Alex? Check out his bio page to make that happen!<br>
<strong>Alex Prasad&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/alex-prasad" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/alex-prasad</a></p>

<p>Visit the <a href="https://v1sports.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>V1 Sports website</strong></a> to learn more and to download the V1 Golf App in the Apple App Store or Google Play Store.<br>
<a href="https://v1sports.com/" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/fC_NoWtr.png" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: Alex Prasad - CEO at V1 Sports.</p>]]>
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  <title>Fuelling Golf's Next Big Ideas - Matt Erley, Managing Partner at Old Tom Capital</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Are you wondering where the real disruption in golf is happening beyond the headlines? Discover why "more people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined," and where the smartest money is betting on the game's future. Matt Erley, CEO of Old Tom Capital, explains the gaps they are filling and why he believes, "Golf is experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so."</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>"Golf has been experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so. But behind every great idea is a spark of capital and there was a gap. Broader sports investors weren't really paying attention to the category, and we thought, 'Maybe there's a huge opportunity here.'"
Matt Erley is the Managing Partner of Old Tom Capital, a pioneering investment fund specifically focused on early-stage golf and golf-adjacent companies. With a career spanning operational roles and angel investing, Matt co-founded the firm to address a critical gap in the market, providing strategic capital to the innovators shaping the future of the $100 billion golf industry. Named as an homage to the legendary innovator Old Tom Morris, the fund embodies a belief in golf's resilient growth and the transformative power of backing great founders in spaces like agronomy, golf software, emerging media, and the "golf light" experience economy.
During this episode you will discover these inspiring takeaways:
1. The "Unfair Advantage" for Founders
Discover how an investment from Old Tom Capital is more than just money; it's a strategic partnership designed to give your company a leg up on the competition.
Matt Erley reveals that their goal is to provide portfolio companies with an "unfair competitive advantage" through their deep network and operational expertise. Unlike passive investors, Old Tom actively helps its companies by making key introductions, offering strategic guidance, and leveraging synergies across their entire portfolio. For any founder or aspiring entrepreneur, this insight into what a true value-add investor looks like is invaluable and reveals how the right capital partner can accelerate growth.
2. The "Golf Light" Revolution
Learn about the massive, under-the-radar investment trend that is making golf more accessible and creating the next wave of golfers.
Move beyond traditional 18-hole courses and Topgolf. Matt introduces the compelling narrative of "Golf Light"—the high-growth category encompassing driving ranges, par-3 courses, and short courses. He explains why this segment is perfectly positioned to capture the new, "golf-curious" audience looking for a faster, less expensive, and more social experience. His investment in Blue Jeans Golf exemplifies this thesis, highlighting a huge opportunity to "glow up" thousands of independent driving ranges across the country.
3. How to Actually Get Noticed by a Golf Investor
Cut through the noise and learn the specific milestones and mindset you need to successfully secure funding for your golf venture.
Matt pulls back the curtain on Old Tom's investment process, offering a clear roadmap for founders. He explains why they typically avoid very early-stage "ideas" and what they look for instead: tangible momentum, initial monetization, and a clear path to a $100M+ business. He also debunks common mistakes, like leading with an NDA, and emphasizes the importance of simply starting to build and validate your concept in the accessible golf ecosystem. This practical advice is a must-listen for anyone serious about building a golf business.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ZGZdO-8f.jpg
Episode Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction: The Capital Behind Golf's Innovation
02:18 - The Old Tom Capital Origin Story
04:08 - Building Conviction and the First Investment
07:50 - The Evolving Ecosystem of Golf Capital
10:26 - A Day in the Life: How Old Tom Vets Deals
13:15 - Advice for Founders: From NDA to Action
17:24 - Portfolio Deep Dive: Grass League &amp;amp; The Future of Golf Media
20:14 - Portfolio Deep Dive: Blue Jeans Golf &amp;amp; The "Golf Light" Revolution
28:23 - Creating Synergy: The LVMH (https://www.lvmh.com/en) of Golf?
31:29 - The Investor's Role: More Than Just a Cheque
36:39 - Navigating the AI Hype in Golf Innovation and Tech
41:03 - The Lightning Round: Tin Cup, Tech, and Dream Foursomes
45:08 - How to Connect with Matt and What Makes a Fundable Business
Quotable Moments from Matt:
On the unique opportunity in golf:
"Golf has historically been a very sexy category to invest in, but it needs advocates internally who are showing outside investors that these are great places to invest because golf needs more capital. It's not going to just come from us. It needs to come from a lot of sources."
On the philosophy behind their investments:
"The moment we write a check, we like to think that we give that company an unfair competitive advantage because of who we are and what we put into it and the network that we've built."
On the massive shift in how golf is consumed:
"More people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined. And it's not cannibalizing the PGA Tour it's just being additive."
Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Matt on The ModGolf YouTube channel (https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8). Click on this link (https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8) or the image below.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/k_ZbIkwN.jpg (https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8) 
Want to connect with Matt? Check out his bio page to make that happen!
Matt Erley's bio page &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-erley
Are you an innovative founder struggling to find investors who truly understand the golf industry? Discover what it really takes to get funded in today's golf market as Matt shares how his firm provides an "unfair competitive advantage" and the one thing he tells every aspiring founder to do first. Visit the Old Tom Capital website (https://www.oldtomcapital.com/) to learn more and to connect.
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/oz8BqVvC.png (https://www.oldtomcapital.com/) 
We want to thank Golf Genius Software for supporting The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?
https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg (https://www.golfgenius.com)
Golf Genius powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at golfgenius.com (https://www.golfgenius.com).
Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!
As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I've been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.
I'm excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.
I'm offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.
Click to join &amp;gt;&amp;gt; https://patreon.com/Modgolf
I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin
https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg (https://patreon.com/Modgolf) Special Guest: Matt Erley - Managing Partner at Old Tom Capital.
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;Golf has been experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so. But behind every great idea is a spark of capital and there was a gap. Broader sports investors weren&#39;t really paying attention to the category, and we thought, &#39;Maybe there&#39;s a huge opportunity here.&#39;&quot;</p>

<p>Matt Erley is the Managing Partner of Old Tom Capital, a pioneering investment fund specifically focused on early-stage golf and golf-adjacent companies. With a career spanning operational roles and angel investing, Matt co-founded the firm to address a critical gap in the market, providing strategic capital to the innovators shaping the future of the $100 billion golf industry. Named as an homage to the legendary innovator Old Tom Morris, the fund embodies a belief in golf&#39;s resilient growth and the transformative power of backing great founders in spaces like agronomy, golf software, emerging media, and the &quot;golf light&quot; experience economy.</p>

<p><strong>During this episode you will discover these inspiring takeaways:</strong><br>
<strong>1. The &quot;Unfair Advantage&quot; for Founders</strong><br>
Discover how an investment from Old Tom Capital is more than just money; it&#39;s a strategic partnership designed to give your company a leg up on the competition.</p>

<p>Matt Erley reveals that their goal is to provide portfolio companies with an &quot;unfair competitive advantage&quot; through their deep network and operational expertise. Unlike passive investors, Old Tom actively helps its companies by making key introductions, offering strategic guidance, and leveraging synergies across their entire portfolio. For any founder or aspiring entrepreneur, this insight into what a true value-add investor looks like is invaluable and reveals how the right capital partner can accelerate growth.</p>

<p><strong>2. The &quot;Golf Light&quot; Revolution</strong><br>
Learn about the massive, under-the-radar investment trend that is making golf more accessible and creating the next wave of golfers.</p>

<p>Move beyond traditional 18-hole courses and Topgolf. Matt introduces the compelling narrative of &quot;Golf Light&quot;—the high-growth category encompassing driving ranges, par-3 courses, and short courses. He explains why this segment is perfectly positioned to capture the new, &quot;golf-curious&quot; audience looking for a faster, less expensive, and more social experience. His investment in Blue Jeans Golf exemplifies this thesis, highlighting a huge opportunity to &quot;glow up&quot; thousands of independent driving ranges across the country.</p>

<p><strong>3. How to Actually Get Noticed by a Golf Investor</strong><br>
Cut through the noise and learn the specific milestones and mindset you need to successfully secure funding for your golf venture.</p>

<p>Matt pulls back the curtain on Old Tom&#39;s investment process, offering a clear roadmap for founders. He explains why they typically avoid very early-stage &quot;ideas&quot; and what they look for instead: tangible momentum, initial monetization, and a clear path to a $100M+ business. He also debunks common mistakes, like leading with an NDA, and emphasizes the importance of simply starting to build and validate your concept in the accessible golf ecosystem. This practical advice is a must-listen for anyone serious about building a golf business.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/ZGZdO-8f.jpg" alt=""></p>

<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
<strong>00:00</strong> - Introduction: The Capital Behind Golf&#39;s Innovation<br>
<strong>02:18</strong> - The Old Tom Capital Origin Story<br>
<strong>04:08</strong> - Building Conviction and the First Investment<br>
<strong>07:50</strong> - The Evolving Ecosystem of Golf Capital<br>
<strong>10:26</strong> - A Day in the Life: How Old Tom Vets Deals<br>
<strong>13:15</strong> - Advice for Founders: From NDA to Action<br>
<strong>17:24</strong> - Portfolio Deep Dive: Grass League &amp; The Future of Golf Media<br>
<strong>20:14</strong> - Portfolio Deep Dive: Blue Jeans Golf &amp; The &quot;Golf Light&quot; Revolution<br>
<strong>28:23</strong> - Creating Synergy: The <a href="https://www.lvmh.com/en" rel="nofollow"><strong>LVMH</strong></a> of Golf?<br>
<strong>31:29</strong> - The Investor&#39;s Role: More Than Just a Cheque<br>
<strong>36:39</strong> - Navigating the AI Hype in Golf Innovation and Tech<br>
<strong>41:03</strong> - The Lightning Round: Tin Cup, Tech, and Dream Foursomes<br>
<strong>45:08</strong> - How to Connect with Matt and What Makes a Fundable Business</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Matt:</strong><br>
<strong>On the unique opportunity in golf:</strong><br>
&quot;Golf has historically been a very sexy category to invest in, but it needs advocates internally who are showing outside investors that these are great places to invest because golf needs more capital. It&#39;s not going to just come from us. It needs to come from a lot of sources.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the philosophy behind their investments:</strong><br>
&quot;The moment we write a check, we like to think that we give that company an unfair competitive advantage because of who we are and what we put into it and the network that we&#39;ve built.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the massive shift in how golf is consumed:</strong><br>
&quot;More people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined. And it&#39;s not cannibalizing the PGA Tour it&#39;s just being additive.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below.<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/k_ZbIkwN.jpg" alt=""></a> </p>

<p>Want to connect with Matt? Check out his bio page to make that happen!<br>
<strong>Matt Erley&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-erley" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-erley</a></p>

<p>Are you an innovative founder struggling to find investors who truly understand the golf industry? Discover what it really takes to get funded in today&#39;s golf market as Matt shares how his firm provides an &quot;unfair competitive advantage&quot; and the one thing he tells every aspiring founder to do first. Visit the <a href="https://www.oldtomcapital.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Old Tom Capital website</strong></a> to learn more and to connect.<br>
<a href="https://www.oldtomcapital.com/" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/oz8BqVvC.png" alt=""></a> </p>

<hr>

<p>We want to thank <strong>Golf Genius Software</strong> for supporting The ModGolf Podcast since 2019!<br>
Are you a golf course owner, manager or operator looking to increase both your profit margins and on-course experience?<br>
<a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/K9NPjjAv.jpg" alt=""></a><br>
<strong>Golf Genius</strong> powers tournament management at over 10,000 private clubs, public courses, resorts, golf associations, and tours in over 60 countries. So if you’re a golf professional or course operator who wants to save time, deliver exceptional golfer experiences, and generate more revenue, check them out online at <a href="https://www.golfgenius.com" rel="nofollow">golfgenius.com</a>.</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Join our mission to make golf more innovative, inclusive and fun... and WIN some awesome golf gear!</strong></p>

<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

<p>I&#39;m excited to announce that I just launched our ModGolf Patreon page to bring together our close-knit community of golf-loving people! As my Patron you will get access to exclusive live monthly interactive shows where you can participate, ask-me-anything video events, bonus content, golf product discounts and entry in members-only ModGolf Giveaway contests.</p>

<p>I&#39;m offering two monthly membership tiers at $5 and $15 USD, but you can also join for free. Your subscription will ensure that The ModGolf Podcast continues to grow so that I can focus on creating unique and impactful stories that support and celebrate the future of golf.</p>

<p>Click to join &gt;&gt; <a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow">https://patreon.com/Modgolf</a></p>

<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: Matt Erley - Managing Partner at Old Tom Capital.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;Golf has been experiencing incredible growth and innovation and will continue to do so. But behind every great idea is a spark of capital and there was a gap. Broader sports investors weren&#39;t really paying attention to the category, and we thought, &#39;Maybe there&#39;s a huge opportunity here.&#39;&quot;</p>

<p>Matt Erley is the Managing Partner of Old Tom Capital, a pioneering investment fund specifically focused on early-stage golf and golf-adjacent companies. With a career spanning operational roles and angel investing, Matt co-founded the firm to address a critical gap in the market, providing strategic capital to the innovators shaping the future of the $100 billion golf industry. Named as an homage to the legendary innovator Old Tom Morris, the fund embodies a belief in golf&#39;s resilient growth and the transformative power of backing great founders in spaces like agronomy, golf software, emerging media, and the &quot;golf light&quot; experience economy.</p>

<p><strong>During this episode you will discover these inspiring takeaways:</strong><br>
<strong>1. The &quot;Unfair Advantage&quot; for Founders</strong><br>
Discover how an investment from Old Tom Capital is more than just money; it&#39;s a strategic partnership designed to give your company a leg up on the competition.</p>

<p>Matt Erley reveals that their goal is to provide portfolio companies with an &quot;unfair competitive advantage&quot; through their deep network and operational expertise. Unlike passive investors, Old Tom actively helps its companies by making key introductions, offering strategic guidance, and leveraging synergies across their entire portfolio. For any founder or aspiring entrepreneur, this insight into what a true value-add investor looks like is invaluable and reveals how the right capital partner can accelerate growth.</p>

<p><strong>2. The &quot;Golf Light&quot; Revolution</strong><br>
Learn about the massive, under-the-radar investment trend that is making golf more accessible and creating the next wave of golfers.</p>

<p>Move beyond traditional 18-hole courses and Topgolf. Matt introduces the compelling narrative of &quot;Golf Light&quot;—the high-growth category encompassing driving ranges, par-3 courses, and short courses. He explains why this segment is perfectly positioned to capture the new, &quot;golf-curious&quot; audience looking for a faster, less expensive, and more social experience. His investment in Blue Jeans Golf exemplifies this thesis, highlighting a huge opportunity to &quot;glow up&quot; thousands of independent driving ranges across the country.</p>

<p><strong>3. How to Actually Get Noticed by a Golf Investor</strong><br>
Cut through the noise and learn the specific milestones and mindset you need to successfully secure funding for your golf venture.</p>

<p>Matt pulls back the curtain on Old Tom&#39;s investment process, offering a clear roadmap for founders. He explains why they typically avoid very early-stage &quot;ideas&quot; and what they look for instead: tangible momentum, initial monetization, and a clear path to a $100M+ business. He also debunks common mistakes, like leading with an NDA, and emphasizes the importance of simply starting to build and validate your concept in the accessible golf ecosystem. This practical advice is a must-listen for anyone serious about building a golf business.</p>

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<p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong><br>
<strong>00:00</strong> - Introduction: The Capital Behind Golf&#39;s Innovation<br>
<strong>02:18</strong> - The Old Tom Capital Origin Story<br>
<strong>04:08</strong> - Building Conviction and the First Investment<br>
<strong>07:50</strong> - The Evolving Ecosystem of Golf Capital<br>
<strong>10:26</strong> - A Day in the Life: How Old Tom Vets Deals<br>
<strong>13:15</strong> - Advice for Founders: From NDA to Action<br>
<strong>17:24</strong> - Portfolio Deep Dive: Grass League &amp; The Future of Golf Media<br>
<strong>20:14</strong> - Portfolio Deep Dive: Blue Jeans Golf &amp; The &quot;Golf Light&quot; Revolution<br>
<strong>28:23</strong> - Creating Synergy: The <a href="https://www.lvmh.com/en" rel="nofollow"><strong>LVMH</strong></a> of Golf?<br>
<strong>31:29</strong> - The Investor&#39;s Role: More Than Just a Cheque<br>
<strong>36:39</strong> - Navigating the AI Hype in Golf Innovation and Tech<br>
<strong>41:03</strong> - The Lightning Round: Tin Cup, Tech, and Dream Foursomes<br>
<strong>45:08</strong> - How to Connect with Matt and What Makes a Fundable Business</p>

<p><strong>Quotable Moments from Matt:</strong><br>
<strong>On the unique opportunity in golf:</strong><br>
&quot;Golf has historically been a very sexy category to invest in, but it needs advocates internally who are showing outside investors that these are great places to invest because golf needs more capital. It&#39;s not going to just come from us. It needs to come from a lot of sources.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the philosophy behind their investments:</strong><br>
&quot;The moment we write a check, we like to think that we give that company an unfair competitive advantage because of who we are and what we put into it and the network that we&#39;ve built.&quot;</p>

<p><strong>On the massive shift in how golf is consumed:</strong><br>
&quot;More people watch golf on YouTube than all linear television golf combined. And it&#39;s not cannibalizing the PGA Tour it&#39;s just being additive.&quot;</p>

<p>Are you more of a watcher than a listener? Then enjoy our video with Matt on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow">The ModGolf YouTube channel</a></strong>. Click on <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/YBxBsVuRti8" rel="nofollow">this link</a></strong> or the image below.<br>
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<p>Want to connect with Matt? Check out his bio page to make that happen!<br>
<strong>Matt Erley&#39;s bio page &gt;&gt;</strong> <a href="https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-erley" rel="nofollow">https://modgolf.fireside.fm/guests/matt-erley</a></p>

<p>Are you an innovative founder struggling to find investors who truly understand the golf industry? Discover what it really takes to get funded in today&#39;s golf market as Matt shares how his firm provides an &quot;unfair competitive advantage&quot; and the one thing he tells every aspiring founder to do first. Visit the <a href="https://www.oldtomcapital.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Old Tom Capital website</strong></a> to learn more and to connect.<br>
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<p>As the creator and host of The ModGolf Podcast and YouTube channel I&#39;ve been telling golf entrepreneurship and innovation stories since May 2017 and I love the community of ModGolfers that we are building.</p>

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<p>I look forward to seeing you during an upcoming live show!... Colin</p>

<p><a href="https://patreon.com/Modgolf" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/1ea879c1-a4a2-4e10-bea4-e5d8368a3c7a/q_IZwlpO.jpg" alt=""></a></p><p>Special Guest: Matt Erley - Managing Partner at Old Tom Capital.</p>]]>
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